ooh, ooh . . . new batman movie . . . ooh, ooh

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Seriously? Jack's Joker was Jack in Joker make-up. A fucking shame.

I strongly agree with DFA on this one.  I never agree with overwrought, messiah-like praise for an acting performance but Ledger's Joker WAS awesome.  See, there's something I like.  He made you think that someone like that could actually exist.  Bale's Batman or Two-Face?  Not so much.

The first Batman was just dull and stupid.  Everyone tears the third and fourth ones for being campy and awful but Smilex?  "Batdance?"  Jerry Hall?  Acting?  Michael Keaton?  Puh-leeze.

Brian

heath's joker . . . liked pink floyd.

walkonby wrote:
heath's joker . . . liked pink floyd.

I did not see evidence of that.  He seemed more Johnny Rotten/Sid Vicious doing "My Way" in "The Great Rock N Roll Swindle".

Brian

Brian_Wallace wrote:

walkonby wrote:
heath's joker . . . liked pink floyd.

I did not seem evidence of that.  He seemed more Johnny Rotten/Sid Vicious doing "My Way" in "The Great Rock N Roll Swindle".

Brian

Ooh -ooh…this reminds me. I was flicking through the independant movie channels last week and came across Sid & Nancy with Gary Oldman. It was just starting. I hadn't seen it so was all excited to watch it. 25 minutes later I was watching the food channel. The acting was fucking atrocious….it was even beyond being so bad it was fun to watch. It was painful to watch. I felt embarrassed for the actors. I'm just glad I didn't pay to watch that shit is all I can say.

Okay…back to Batman. Just wanted to share this…..

i like your use of ooh, ooh.    ;D

Frank wrote:

Brian_Wallace wrote:

walkonby wrote:
heath's joker . . . liked pink floyd.

I did not seem evidence of that.  He seemed more Johnny Rotten/Sid Vicious doing "My Way" in "The Great Rock N Roll Swindle".

Brian

Ooh -ooh…this reminds me. I was flicking through the independant movie channels last week and came across Sid & Nancy with Gary Oldman. It was just starting. I hadn't seen it so was all excited to watch it. 25 minutes later I was watching the food channel. The acting was fucking atrocious….it was even beyond being so bad it was fun to watch. It was painful to watch. I felt embarrassed for the actors. I'm just glad I didn't pay to watch that shit is all I can say.

Okay…back to Batman. Just wanted to share this…..

I'm disappointed you didn't compare/contrast Gary Oldman's interpretation of Sid Vicious with his interpretation of Commissioner James Gordon.  That would have tied it back into the Batman discussion quite neatly.

Courtney Love is actually in "Sid & Nancy".  She plays one of Sid and Nancy's hanger-on junkie friends.  That is in NO WAY foreshadowing.

Brian

i like your use of not replying to the fact that sid and nancy was a bad movie.    ;D

Brian_Wallace wrote:

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
Seriously? Jack's Joker was Jack in Joker make-up. A fucking shame.

I strongly agree with DFA on this one.  I never agree with overwrought, messiah-like praise for an acting performance but Ledger's Joker WAS awesome.  See, there's something I like.  He made you think that someone like that could actually exist.  Bale's Batman or Two-Face?  Not so much.

The first Batman was just dull and stupid.  Everyone tears the third and fourth ones for being campy and awful but Smilex?  "Batdance?"  Jerry Hall?  Acting?  Michael Keaton?  Puh-leeze.

Brian

Not to mention how many times in the movie are you like "That's Heath Ledger" He completed MADE that character, it's amazing. I watch the first Batman and think "That's just Jack Nicolson in Joker make-up. His voice is Jack, his face is Jack, everything is Jack. He's just a little more mobile than we're used to. The Joker is my favorite Batman villain and villain ever, but I refrained from saying it was the best thing ever when I saw TDK because I thought it WAS amazing but I didn't want to be biased becuase I have been obsessed with The Joker since I was a kid. It was great to see the re-vamped Joker, but I was never impressed or in awe of Jack's and I think anyone who says his was better is just an idiot who wants to argue. Nicolson wasn't nominated and won for his Joker, even though I think the Academy is a joke, but it shows how his performance was seen throughout the industry.

Watch any Jack Nicolson movie and watch Batman, you're like "Yep, that's him"

Watch 10 Things I Hate About You and watch The Dark Knight, it's amazing to think it's Heath Ledger and if you don't agree that's fine, but I just think it's silly to say Jack's was better…

everybody knows why heath was nominated and won.  pah . . . lease.  his death, plus the who else was nominated; there was no way they were giving it to downey's performance in tropic thunder; hoffman in doubt (won too much already); brolin in milk (penn was already the goto guy from that film).  jack was better, and    yes . . . i already know i'm an idiot; that's beside the point.  heath couldn't even win when he was nominated before.  the end.

Really? I actually thought that if Heath hadn't died that Gary Oldman would have been nominated too. If anything for the last scene where Harvey has his family. Powerful performance there at the end.

my prediction

the new batman movie is going to fail so bad.  worse than iron man 2 fail.

this is new trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apMXFloDH6M

this is bane



this is catwoman

Who are you?  Dr. Watson from "The Red-Headed League?"

You can determine how good an entire film (that's just started filming and won't be out for a year) will be just by looking at a few production photos and extrapolating?

You know, it didn't used to be like this.  We used to wait.

Brian

Well walkonby might be right, the new Batman might fail as bad as Iron Man 2, which made $622,056,974 worldwide, failed. I too would like to fail like that. Please let me fail to the tune of $622,056,974.

There's going to be a oh-yeah-Heath-died letdown but this is still going to rake in the money.

I always wonder why it is that many of you who listen almost exclusively to indie as fuck bands watch such mainstream trash popcorn bucket movies???

$$ made  equals   fail

shitty villians that are played by shit stars who dress shittily and ruin the comic book feel  =  fail


god . . . nothing is better than people who equate revenue with substance.

Did anyone see the trailer to "The Dark Knight Rises" and/or the "Bane" prologue this weekend?

I have to give credit to Nolan, it looks pretty cool and non-comic booky.  I really miss the Bat nipples, though.  I don't want to give anything away but I wish that would happen to the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight….

Brian

new trailer cements old idea.

the new batman movie will blow.

any reason why they didn't show catwoman in the trailer?  same reason they won't show hulk in the avengers trailer . . . because they know they will suck and bring the film to a screeching halt.  and bane looks horrible, the special effect looks overdone and enough is enough with computer effects.  should have let the series die with heath.

There should be a way to post the same thing in multiple threads…

You know whose fault the power outage was at the 49ers/Steelers game?  Catwoman and the Gotham 99%. 

Bane still wanted to get at Hines Ward.  (Which, if you've seen the new "Dark Knight Rises" trailer makes more sense.)

Brian