Fillmore SS Shows

What happens if you try to attend a show without your ID?

What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.

Yada wrote:
What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.

i seem to recall they said they're checking against database.. at least for people in child support arrears for people in Mongomery County.. maybe more…


maybe i'm wrong.. i was too busy screamin'…

They allow 2 beers per person when I was there…

I do not like when they go to check my ID that they're swiping my information and I don't know how it's being used/captured.  Why is this necessary?  I even asked the guy what if I don't want you swiping my ID he said I wouldn't be allowed in. Kinda seems a little too big brother to me.

hutch wrote:

Yada wrote:
What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.

no.. they're checking against database.. at least for people in child support arrears for people in Mongomery County.. maybe more…


its a great precedent…

So does that give the MoCo Police something to do while they're standing outside? They certainly aren't enforcing people smoking up weed in the club…

MindCage wrote:

hutch wrote:

Yada wrote:
What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.

no.. they're checking against database.. at least for people in child support arrears for people in Mongomery County.. maybe more…


its a great precedent…

So does that give the MoCo Police something to do while they're standing outside? They certainly aren't enforcing people smoking up weed in the club…

what do you mean? like arrest people? the people scanning were venue employees

its just too big brother for me… they don't even tell you what they're doing it for!


PERSONALLY i have a tough time being a part of that sort of stuff at a rock and roll show.. so i'll be going to very few shows..


bill graham is rolling in his grave.

Yada wrote:
What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.

So Fillmore is 21+?

I thought it was all ages.

ggw wrote:

Yada wrote:
What database do you speak of? Pretty sure they're scanning to check for fake ids like thousands of other bars.

So Fillmore is 21+?

I thought it was all ages.

it is all ages.. that is not what they are scanning for…


the crazy thing is they don't really tell you what they are scanning for

MindCage wrote:
I do not like when they go to check my ID that they're swiping my information and I don't know how it's being used/captured.  Why is this necessary?  I even asked the guy what if I don't want you swiping my ID he said I wouldn't be allowed in. Kinda seems a little too big brother to me.

… So much for those Rock en Espanol shows. . ?
just saying. . . 
For myself I don't want to be automatically turned into a market share demographic. . . for friends of mine. . . it's a point of paranoia. . .

I am assuming they are scanning to confirm what comes up on the stripe. They do this at Caddies and other Mont Co establishments. The magnetic stripes on the DLs contain birthdate, address, etc, not much else. I highly doubt they are scanning to check to see you are up to date on your child support.

they are scanning . . . because, once again, it is to stop those who exploit the system.  ids can be faked.  the information on those strips cannot.  and they have very limited information besides name and birthdate.  they don't have ssn numbers on them.

hate the way some artists are doing thier tickets now, blame scalpers.

hate the way bars have to attempt to stop minors now, blame kids.

walkonby wrote:
they are scanning . . . because, once again, it is to stop those who exploit the system.  ids can be faked.  the information on those strips cannot.  and they have very limited information besides name and birthdate.  they don't have ssn numbers on them.

hate the way some artists are doing thier tickets now, blame scalpers.

hate the way bars have to attempt to stop minors now, blame kids.

According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission.  So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.

ggw wrote:

walkonby wrote:
they are scanning . . . because, once again, it is to stop those who exploit the system.  ids can be faked.  the information on those strips cannot.  and they have very limited information besides name and birthdate.  they don't have ssn numbers on them.

hate the way some artists are doing thier tickets now, blame scalpers.

hate the way bars have to attempt to stop minors now, blame kids.

According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission.  So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.

So what if I go there with my 2 year old niece?  She has no ID (well a passport, but who carries that around?), so I guess she can't get in.  I would assume that no ID, like the 930,no drinking, regardless of how old you look.  If they keep you out for that, that would be stupid (I have friends who don't bring IDs if they don't plan to drink and are not driving).

i think it has little to do with proving you are 21 because once inside when you order you have to show ID again… is it simply to prove you have a "valid" ID?

i think its just big brother.. what they are looking for i don't know..  i remember something about checking for people who owe child support in montgomery county…then again i was pretty buzzed….

honestly, some people apparently want going to a concert to be like going to the airport.. i don't. the "do the rabbit years" drill at the door is unacceptable to me. lets not mention having to do all these lines… its a friggin' hassle!

I could give a shit if a 20 year old drinks a beer or if someone without an ID does… What is it to me? I pay for my ticket and I have a valid ID so dont' harass ME.

MindCage wrote:
They allow 2 beers per person when I was there…

I do not like when they go to check my ID that they're swiping my information and I don't know how it's being used/captured.  Why is this necessary?  I even asked the guy what if I don't want you swiping my ID he said I wouldn't be allowed in. Kinda seems a little too big brother to me.

Maybe it was just this show that we only could get 1 beer.  Or it was an un-informed bar tender.  I hope thats the case because that was crazy, especially for a general admission show.  The sound wasn't that great either (couldn't really hear the snare drum), maybe I am spoiled by 930..

ggw wrote:
According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission.  So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.

not following you… the scanning will definitely stop the use of fake IDs, since the fakes will be spotted at the door, confiscated, and the person who tried using it won't be admitted (or will have to use another ID, one the presumably shows that they are underage).  what am i missing here?

hutch wrote:
I could give a shit if a 20 year old drinks a beer or if someone without an ID does… What is it to me? I pay for my ticket and I have a valid ID so dont' harass ME.

the venue does give a shit if a 20-year-old drink a beer, because they could lose their license over it.  they're not harassing you more or less than the underaged would-be drinker.  you're treated the same.

if you're not a fan of their security/admission process, don't go there anymore.

sweetcell wrote:

ggw wrote:
According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission.  So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.

not following you… the scanning will definitely stop the use of fake IDs, since the fakes will be spotted at the door, confiscated, and the person who tried using it won't be admitted (or will have to use another ID, one the presumably shows that they are underage).  what am i missing here?

hutch wrote:
I could give a shit if a 20 year old drinks a beer or if someone without an ID does… What is it to me? I pay for my ticket and I have a valid ID so dont' harass ME.

the venue does give a shit if a 20-year-old drink a beer, because they could lose their license over it.   they're not harassing you more or less than the underaged would-be drinker.  you're treated the same.

if you're not a fan of their security/admission process, don't go there anymore.

always so pleasant

And I don't plan to go Sweetcell..unless I get on the guest list or something..or they get some miracle show which looks unlikely..


I vote with my wallet. I don't like it and I won't support it. End of story.


Some people like to be sheep.. I don't.

Saw some people get caught smoking pot Saturday night. They were told to put it out and received xS on their hands thus shutting them off from more alcohol purchases.  No one got tossed, as far as i could tell

sweetcell wrote:

ggw wrote:
According to MindCage's post on the previous page, if you don't let them scan your ID you will be denied admission.  So it doesn't appear to be about stopping the use of fake IDs by underage patrons.

not following you… the scanning will definitely stop the use of fake IDs, since the fakes will be spotted at the door, confiscated, and the person who tried using it won't be admitted (or will have to use another ID, one the presumably shows that they are underage).  what am i missing here?

If the goal is to stop the use of fake IDs, then the proper response to somebody who didn't show ID would be to mark them as underage.