Fillmore SS Shows

Vas wrote:
Yes, I'm serious.  Arcade Fire, The Pixies and Erykah Badu all sounded great there.

Yada wrote:

Vas wrote:
Never been to a bad show at DAR….well maybe once when Ryan Adams put me to sleep.

You serious?? I've never been to a good show there. Maybe WEEN front row once, but still not as good as seeing them at a packed sold out club show.

Wilco/Sonic Youth
Modest Mouse
WEEN
Pixies

Maybe one or two more… Just something really boring about that place, mixed with the crap sound, and no booze.

I think part of the problem is after seeing bands like Arcade Fire, Wilco, etc at the Club and then them playing there, it's just fucking awful, which is why I'd rather see them move to FSS than DAR.

I remember a couple years ago there was talk of enclosing the seated portion of Merriweather to allow it to have shows year-round.  I wonder if that is still being considered.  Seems like a great alternative to DAR, and somewhere I would much rather go for larger indoor shows, even with the longer commute to get there.

I think the shed in Camden, NJ (just across the river from Philly) might do this in the winter months.

Yada wrote:
Maybe one or two more… Just something really boring about that place, mixed with the crap sound, and no booze.

I think part of the problem is after seeing bands like Arcade Fire, Wilco, etc at the Club and then them playing there, it's just fucking awful, which is why I'd rather see them move to FSS than DAR.

seems that the no booze thing is now the exception rather than the rule.  for a while DAR was all uptight about drinks in the hall, but i can't remember the last show i saw there when they weren't allowed in.

you hit the nail on the head about the club –> DAR transition thing, it's a stepping stone for acts who have outgrown clubs.  there is a certain amount of whining going on here, IMO: whaaaa, whaaaa, i want my little band to remain little, i don't want them to play big venues and have other people liking them too!!! ;) 

i'm in the "DAR is fine" camp, but i've never had bad seats there.  as hutch pointed out, if you're in the front half of the hall you'll be fine (if not downright impressed, depending on the act/techies).  only bad sounding show i've ever seen there was eddy izzard, night 1 - waaaaaayyy too echo-ey.  otherwise, every show has sounded ok to great.  i'd LOVE to hear sigur ros at DAR.

DAR vs FSS?  haven't been to FSS yet, but based on what i'm hearing from other who have i might prefer DAR.

Mr.Whippy wrote:
I think the shed in Camden, NJ (just across the river from Philly) might do this in the winter months.

yup, they do.  the camden shed is already enclosed (permamently) on three sides, so closing up the back (part that opens out on to the lawn) is relatively simple.

sweetcell wrote:

DAR vs FSS?  haven't been to FSS yet, but based on what i'm hearing from other who have i might prefer DAR.

Sound: FSS
Booze: FSS
No one bitching at you for standing up: FSS
Intimate Setting: FSS
Pot Smoke Tolerated: FSS

FSS FTW!

Yada wrote:

sweetcell wrote:

DAR vs FSS?  haven't been to FSS yet, but based on what i'm hearing from other who have i might prefer DAR.

Sound: FSS
Booze: FSS
No one bitching at you for standing up: FSS
Intimate Setting: FSS
Pot Smoke Tolerated: FSS

FSS FTW!

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hutch wrote:
it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer…$54 for the roots for example..

This cannot be emphasized enough.  Their ticket prices are awful and that scenario might explain it.

StoneTheCrow wrote:

hutch wrote:
it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer…$54 for the roots for example..

This cannot be emphasized enough.&nbsp; Their ticket prices are awful and that scenario might explain it.

just saying, but $54 is the price after fees. the "face value" price is $45 - exactly the same as when the roots played at 9:30 for 2 shows last year. and if you try to buy a ticket for a $45 show at 9:30, it'll end up the same $54 or $56 or whatever. you can argue you get a "more intimate" experience at 9:30 since it holds 800 or so fewer people, but the ticket price for a concertgoer is basically the same.

BookerT wrote:

StoneTheCrow wrote:

hutch wrote:
it would seem that they are just willing to pay talent more and pass on higher ticket prices to the consumer…$54 for the roots for example..

This cannot be emphasized enough.&nbsp; Their ticket prices are awful and that scenario might explain it.

just saying, but $54 is the price after fees. the &quot;face value&quot; price is $45 - exactly the same as when the roots played at 9:30 for 2 shows last year. and if you try to buy a ticket for a $45 show at 9:30, it&#039;ll end up the same $54 or $56 or whatever. you can argue you get a &quot;more intimate&quot; experience at 9:30 since it holds 800 or so fewer people, but the ticket price for a concertgoer is basically the same.

thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

didn't realize the roots were up to 45 at 930


if thats the case then they are simply using their greater capacity (i'm still unclear if it is 1800 or what) to lure talent away from the 930…I suppose it could be possible the 930 was booked that night..

but there have been quite a few acts that used to play the 930 now playing the fillmore…. ziggy marley, trey, cheap trick.. can' recall what else..

there are also acts that used to play the warner now going there…widespread panic.. some of the comedy..this is simply Live Nation routing shows to the Fillmore that they used to route to the Warner…


i thought i had been noticing a trend towards higher ticket prices at the Fillmore than at 930..

BookerT wrote:the &quot;face value&quot; price is $45 - exactly the same as when the roots played at 9:30 for 2 shows last year. and if you try to buy a ticket for a $45 show at 9:30, it&#039;ll end up the same $54 or $56 or whatever.

Ok, that's fair.  I thought the $54 was face.

My comment is also based on my experience of getting sticker shock for all three of the shows I've considered going to there (or considered getting dragged to) - Primus, Roots and Widespread Panic (ugh).  Panic is $60, I think?  That's not a shitload for a club show?

The Roots' 930 Club shows have been the very end of December the last few times, right? The Club booking DBT for the 29th-31st might be why they couldn't get the Roots this time.

yeah i thought 54 was the face value too..but of course when it comes to Fillmore show people add in all the fees and list that as the price. ::)

the panic shows are special.  you pay for special.

walkonby wrote:
the panic shows are special.&nbsp; you pay for special.

Lol

Mr.Whippy wrote:
I remember a couple years ago there was talk of enclosing the seated portion of Merriweather to allow it to have shows year-round.&nbsp; I wonder if that is still being considered.&nbsp; Seems like a great alternative to DAR, and somewhere I would much rather go for larger indoor shows, even with the longer commute to get there.

I think the shed in Camden, NJ (just across the river from Philly) might do this in the winter months.

Not on the table. The actual plan was to enclose, make it smaller, no outdoor shows and convert the parking lot into big box stores.  Went over like a lead balloon. 

I pray to God I can weasel my way out of that Panic show.

StoneTheCrow wrote:
I pray to God I can weasel my way out of that Panic show.

i'm sorry . . . that might be the dumbest thing i've ever read.  if you don't want to go.  don't go.  if you hate the band.  hate them.  who cares.

walkonby wrote:

StoneTheCrow wrote:
I pray to God I can weasel my way out of that Panic show.

i&#039;m sorry . . . that might be the dumbest thing i&#039;ve ever read.&nbsp; if you don&#039;t want to go.&nbsp; don&#039;t go.&nbsp; if you hate the band.&nbsp; hate them.&nbsp; who cares.

I bet your partner is posting the same thing on another message board on the interwebz.

"My parnter is dragging me to a two night run to fucking acoustic Panic, can you believe it?? What the hell can I do to get out of it?"

Yada wrote:

walkonby wrote:

StoneTheCrow wrote:
I pray to God I can weasel my way out of that Panic show.

i&#039;m sorry . . . that might be the dumbest thing i&#039;ve ever read.&nbsp; if you don&#039;t want to go.&nbsp; don&#039;t go.&nbsp; if you hate the band.&nbsp; hate them.&nbsp; who cares.

I bet your partner is posting the same thing on another message board on the interwebz.

&quot;My parnter is dragging me to a two night run to fucking acoustic Panic, can you believe it?? What the hell can I do to get out of it?&quot;

he is?  scandalous!

Going with a friend who has tix and doesn't want to go alone. As a friend I said I would despite being ambivalent about the band. My preference would ne to stay home but I guess I do stupid shit fo my friends sometimes. At least I can now also proudly claim to have written the dumbest thing you've ever read.