ggw
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 09, 2011 at 09:30 PM UTC
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I see two options. Either settle up the old $100 pool and start a new one. Or the final five let it roll. The latter would obviously exclude the 3 who went out prior to this week.
I would do double or nothing on the big boys* pool, assuming vansmack and seth are on board.
serpent boy
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 09, 2011 at 10:10 PM UTC
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Thanks a lot, Eagles. I decide to be ballsy and go with a road 1-3 team and they choke.
I should've stuck with my Bengals. :)
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 09, 2011 at 11:25 PM UTC
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there's only one option in the $100 league - everyone who got bounced today splits the pool … if all of us or some of us make a subsequent agreement to let it ride and start a new pool, then so be it
sweetcell
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 12:02 AM UTC
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his hoyaness has spoken.
godsshoeshine
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 12:57 AM UTC
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who is no chance in hell
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 12:57 AM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
his hoyaness has spoken.
do you interpret the rules or our initial agreement differently?
sweetcell
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 01:07 AM UTC
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HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
his hoyaness has spoken.
do you interpret the rules or our initial agreement differently?
nope, interpreting our agreement on to the current situation leads to the conclusion that ending the pool and splitting the winnings is what's is expected, IMO. the mulligan/final-five-let-it-roll scenario, while clearly more interesting, is the stretch here. in this case, i like stretching.
also, i wanted to write "his hoyaness".
ggw
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 01:11 AM UTC
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My suggestion of letting it roll was, of course, incumbent on all parties agreeing to do so.
And I am pretty sure no chance in hell is a friend of mine. He just won my wife's family's survival pool with that NWE pick. He won't be getting a Christmas card this year.
godsshoeshine
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 03:38 AM UTC
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haha
ne was my hedge pick
vansmack
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 04:13 AM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
I'm in a $20 loser pool with 250+ people. Just about everybody picked Seattle to lose
Bloodbath in the losers pool this week too. The 75 people that didn't pick Seattle to lose in week two were eliminated this week. I had the Jets. 99 people left…
vansmack
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 04:17 AM UTC
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ggw wrote:
My suggestion of letting it roll was, of course, incumbent on all parties agreeing to do so.
Yes, all parties will have to agree. I'll think about our options and post something we can vote on tomorrow. Feel free to post your ideas here. If you'd like anonymity feel free to send me an email v a n s m a c k @ m s n. C o m
DeathFromAbove1979
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 02:37 PM UTC
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Shadrach wrote:
Well Seattle just broke a lot of hearts and caused Vegas to piss themselves. Manning choked big time.
This is what I get for picking an NFC East team. On the plus side, the Giants AND the Eagles lost.
HAIL!
vansmack
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 04:42 PM UTC
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Eliminated in Week 4SweetPicks* (NYG)
Hoya Paranoia* (NYG)
ggw*+ (NYG)
vansmack*+ (NYG)
Shadrach (NYG)
Child Please* (NYG)
The Sonick Team (NYG)
Crump's Brother (NYG)
D.C. Snipers (PHI)
Picks2 - New England
8 - New York giants
1 - Philadelphia Eagles
In the $5 Pool:troy godamalu (godsshoesine)
no chance in hell
Still fighting on to be the overall pool winner.
In the $1000 Pool:vansmack and ggw split Seth's $1000, though I suspect a resolution will be reached shortly to roll this debt over as all three parties have clearly demonstrated that they possess a small gambling problem.
In the $100 pool:SweetPicks*, Hoya Paranoia*, ggw*, vansmack* and Child Please* all split the losses of Seth, Venerable and eros for a total of $60 each. See my next post for your voting options.
This cracked me up to read back:
joker362514 wrote:
vansmack wrote:
We lose people next week, guaranteed.
I'm not so sure about that, at least for the $100 pool.
vansmack
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 04:50 PM UTC
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OPTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE $100 POOL.
I am happy to roll this $300 pot over into another pool, but all parties must agree first, so please cast your vote either in this thread or send me an email on the following options.
A new pool:
(1) Will be closed to the 5 winners and wipe the slate clean on all teams picked (I can't change part 2).
Yes or No?
(2) Allow the three losers to buy back in for $100 and wipe the slate clean on all teams picked? This would mean that if Seth, Venerable or eros were to win, you would forfeit the original $20 of the winner, but still get the original $40 from the 2 losers. For example, if all three were to buy back in and Seth were to win, he would win $900 (counting his $200), and the remaining $200 is split among the 5 of us (or $40 each, reducing your debt to $60).
Yes or No?
You can vote "Yes" on both measures. Both require 5 yes votes to pass.
#2 would trump #1 if both receive 5 votes
#1 can happen with 5 votes if #2 fails to receive 5 votes.
#1 not receiving 5 votes means we split the $300, and no new pool.
There is no #3 option to roll the $800 into a new pool and let the others buy back in, winner take all, because I'm already voting "no" on it.
vansmack
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 04:51 PM UTC
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Smackie's vote:
#1 YES
#2 YES
ggw
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 06:17 PM UTC
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#1 YES
#2 Confused.
sweetcell
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 06:32 PM UTC
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SC sez:
#1 YES
#2 no
i'm also in favor of paying out the $60 winnings to the 5 semi-survivalists, and starting fresh & anew. anyone could join then, and the math would be a lot simpler.
joker362514
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 06:43 PM UTC
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i don't like the idea of wiping the "teams chosen" slate clean . . . is there anyway to avoid this?
And yes, my "I don't think we lose anybody in the $100 pool" seems so clairvoyant now. Bummer I didn't head to Vegas this weekend.
vansmack
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 06:54 PM UTC
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joker362514 wrote:
i don't like the idea of wiping the "teams chosen" slate clean . . . is there anyway to avoid this?
No. I can't change that on the site and it would be a nightmare to enforce further in the season.
Your commissioner is willing to do advanced banking skills, but he is not willing to check everybody's picks each week AFTER they're already up and be forced to eliminate someone if they incorrectly picked a team twice.
vansmack
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Re: 930 Survival Football 2011
October 10, 2011 at 06:59 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
i'm also in favor of paying out the $60 winnings to the 5 semi-survivalists, and starting fresh & anew. anyone could join then, and the math would be a lot simpler.
This is essentially what happens if #1 fails…