XM vs. Sirius?

they barely reached 3 mil after howard switched..

and the 90% of their audience is just a joke
they arent even syndicated fully yet

http://www.musicradio77.com/wwwboard/messages/285972.html

wow . . . i thought i heard completly different first quarter figures! i don't understand the stock thing, then. their stock is not tanking, it's doing quite well. you would think holders would bail on a company with such numbers.

Originally posted by walkonby:
wow . . . i thought i heard completly different first quarter figures! i don't understand the stock thing, then. their stock is not tanking, it's doing quite well. you would think holders would bail on a company with such numbers.

Most of a satellite radio company's costs are fixed. Once the company hits X number of subscribers (reportedly X = ~10,000,000) then everything after that is gravy. Essentially, those buying the stock are betting that the company will eventually get to that magic number of subscribers.

Originally posted by walkonby:
xm is tanking; it gave 55 million to oprah.

siruis is gaining. they don't waste $$.

d.c. is a city based in freemason corruption.

howard is god, opie and anthony just left xm.

two sports on xm vs. every other sport on sirius.

the jam channel on sirius makes bong noises.

Got a few issues with this post...he/she needs to lay off the pot because:

$55 mil to Oprah, yes, but Sirius has HUNDREDS of these types of signings…

How about the 500 Million they (Sirius) gave Howard? And it has been documented that only a fraction of his listeners came with…

O and A did not leave…they are doing 2 shows a day…both available on XM (uncensored) only one on free.

Last time I checked XM had 6.5 million subs…Sirius was still less than 3…how is less than half "gaining"?

Finally…the sports thing…wrong wrong wrong. MLB, NHL, NBA, College Basketball, ESPN ESPN Radio (both on Sirius as well), World Cup…I can keep going. Sirius has football

Originally posted by Jaguar:
PLEASE….let it replace those intensly annoying asshole Junkies on HFS! PLEASE!!!! Heck, I'd even settle for O&A. Anybody!!! I need something to switch to during my morning drive when I don't feel like fooling around with CDs and WTMD has played yet another crap DMB or John Mayer song or some other shit like that, which they play about 85% of the time. I can't take it any longer!!!! The Junkies are even more annoying, or rather irritatingly obnoxious, than WTMD. Sometimes I give up and chill out to NPR hoping that when I switch back, something more tolerable has hit the waves.

how about elliot in the morning?


relax, just a joke. really though, i liked the junkies when they were on at night, but they really do suck in the mornings.

Originally posted by bbbsmith:
Got a few issues with this post...he/she needs to lay off the pot because:

$55 mil to Oprah, yes, but Sirius has HUNDREDS of these types of signings…

How about the 500 Million they (Sirius) gave Howard? And it has been documented that only a fraction of his listeners came with…

O and A did not leave…they are doing 2 shows a day…both available on XM (uncensored) only one on free.

Last time I checked XM had 6.5 million subs…Sirius was still less than 3…how is less than half "gaining"?

Finally…the sports thing…wrong wrong wrong. MLB, NHL, NBA, College Basketball, ESPN ESPN Radio (both on Sirius as well), World Cup…I can keep going. Sirius has football

sirius is over 4 million subscribers as of 2 weeks ago. before howard announced he was going there, they had around 600,000. sure, they're not all howard's listeners, but i'd say a good 2.5 million are. he had around 12 million listeners before clear channel removed him from their stations… so thats about a fourth of his audience that were willing to pay.

when o&a went to XM their channel was premium and you had to pay $1 extra for it. so how many people signed up? around 30,000. i could be slightly off, but thats the figure i remember (the info came from an XM fan board.) i dont know how many listeners they had at their peak, but clearly they didnt make quite the impact on satellite that howard did.

their show did well in New York, but in alot of other markets (like DC) they flopped. the best thing they can hope for is to get some of his casual listeners that dont subscribe to sirius, or dont know they can download every show for free. it may even be motivation for them to get sirius, after hearing how boring the competiton is.

Sirius gave Stern over $200mill of their stock, which he can't sell for a couple of years. That's aside from the $500mill. So maybe Sirius stock wouldn't be doing so well if it wasn't held by guys who couldn't sell it.

Originally posted by I Dare:
O&A are close to 3 million on xm

I don't believe this.

Originally posted by bbbsmith:

Originally posted by walkonby:
xm is tanking; it gave 55 million to oprah.

siruis is gaining. they don't waste $$.

d.c. is a city based in freemason corruption.

howard is god, opie and anthony just left xm.

two sports on xm vs. every other sport on sirius.

the jam channel on sirius makes bong noises.

Got a few issues with this post...he/she needs to lay off the pot because:

$55 mil to Oprah, yes, but Sirius has HUNDREDS of these types of signings…

How about the 500 Million they (Sirius) gave Howard? And it has been documented that only a fraction of his listeners came with…

O and A did not leave…they are doing 2 shows a day…both available on XM (uncensored) only one on free.

Last time I checked XM had 6.5 million subs…Sirius was still less than 3…how is less than half "gaining"?

Finally…the sports thing…wrong wrong wrong. MLB, NHL, NBA, College Basketball, ESPN ESPN Radio (both on Sirius as well), World Cup…I can keep going. Sirius has football

but does xm make bong noices?

Originally posted by danknugz:

Originally posted by bbbsmith:
Got a few issues with this post...he/she needs to lay off the pot because:

$55 mil to Oprah, yes, but Sirius has HUNDREDS of these types of signings…

How about the 500 Million they (Sirius) gave Howard? And it has been documented that only a fraction of his listeners came with…

O and A did not leave…they are doing 2 shows a day…both available on XM (uncensored) only one on free.

Last time I checked XM had 6.5 million subs…Sirius was still less than 3…how is less than half "gaining"?

Finally…the sports thing…wrong wrong wrong. MLB, NHL, NBA, College Basketball, ESPN ESPN Radio (both on Sirius as well), World Cup…I can keep going. Sirius has football

sirius is over 4 million subscribers as of 2 weeks ago. before howard announced he was going there, they had around 600,000. sure, they're not all howard's listeners, but i'd say a good 2.5 million are. he had around 12 million listeners before clear channel removed him from their stations… so thats about a fourth of his audience that were willing to pay.

when o&a went to XM their channel was premium and you had to pay $1 extra for it. so how many people signed up? around 30,000. i could be slightly off, but thats the figure i remember (the info came from an XM fan board.) i dont know how many listeners they had at their peak, but clearly they didnt make quite the impact on satellite that howard did.

their show did well in New York, but in alot of other markets (like DC) they flopped. the best thing they can hope for is to get some of his casual listeners that dont subscribe to sirius, or dont know they can download every show for free. it may even be motivation for them to get sirius, after hearing how boring the competiton is.

so you're assuming out of 3 million that 2.5 mill listen to howard?

Originally posted by danknugz:
how about elliot in the morning?


relax, just a joke. really though, i liked the junkies when they were on at night, but they really do suck in the mornings.

Hey, I'm desparate! He's got to be much better than the freaking obnoxious Junkies and lame-ass WTMD, especially now that they are in fund driver mode. Imagine public tv during a fund driver with no visuals and, worse yet, absolutely abysmal programming in between all of the ultra boring fund driving. UGH!!!! I forgot to take any CDs with me today so I couldn't even fall back on those in a pinch.

Is Elliot on DC101? If so, that's not even a option for me since I'm in Baltimore. Can't pick up the signal here. I'm really lost as to what is going on with a lot of terrestrail radio around here now that I rarely ever bother with it.

Originally posted by Jaguar:

Originally posted by danknugz:
how about elliot in the morning?


relax, just a joke. really though, i liked the junkies when they were on at night, but they really do suck in the mornings.

Hey, I'm desparate! He's got to be much better than the freaking obnoxious Junkies and lame-ass WTMD, especially now that they are in fund driver mode. Imagine public tv during a fund driver with no visuals and, worse yet, absolutely abysmal programming in between all of the ultra boring fund driving. UGH!!!! I forgot to take any CDs with me today so I couldn't even fall back on those in a pinch.

Is Elliot on DC101? If so, that's not even a option for me since I'm in Baltimore. Can't pick up the signal here. I'm really lost as to what is going on with a lot of terrestrail radio around here now that I rarely ever bother with it.

here's a idea: switch to satellite.

Originally posted by I Dare:
so you're assuming out of 3 million that 2.5 mill listen to howard?

out of 4 million, yes.

thats the main reason it has taken sirius so long to get their online stream of stern up. they know how many people will be listening, and had to make sure they could handle the volume.

Originally posted by Jaguar:
Hey, I'm desparate! He's got to be much better than the freaking obnoxious Junkies and lame-ass WTMD, especially now that they are in fund driver mode. Imagine public tv during a fund driver with no visuals and, worse yet, absolutely abysmal programming in between all of the ultra boring fund driving. UGH!!!! I forgot to take any CDs with me today so I couldn't even fall back on those in a pinch.

Is Elliot on DC101? If so, that's not even a option for me since I'm in Baltimore. Can't pick up the signal here. I'm really lost as to what is going on with a lot of terrestrail radio around here now that I rarely ever bother with it.

yeah he's the morning guy on dc-101.. horrible show. number one in dc, though.

Originally posted by edbert:
Sirius gave Stern over $200mill of their stock, which he can't sell for a couple of years. That's aside from the $500mill. So maybe Sirius stock wouldn't be doing so well if it wasn't held by guys who couldn't sell it.

again, completely untrue. howard's deal goes like this:

$400 million over 5 years for the production of the ENTIRE SHOW. not just his salary, EVERYONE'S salary, plus production costs. the extra $100 million came from the stock they gave him…which doubled in value when he switched over. also, he's allowed to sell the stock at ANY TIME.

Originally posted by walkonby:
here's a idea: switch to satellite.

Not worth it for me. My terrestrail radio battle is only for approximately 45 minutes in the morning for 5 days a week, if even that. If I'm driving to my job in Bethesda, which is a much longer drive, than I'll just pop in a CD. For my local job, it's closer and I'm fighting morning rush hour traffic and like to hear the time, weather, traffic and a little news periodically. I do sometimes put in a CD for the drive home.

Besides, if I'm going to pay any money for radio, it is going to be to one of many different internet stations that I listen to and am much, much happier with. It's just a shame that I can't receive them in my car. Can't afford an iPod or any of the other gadgets that will allow me to receive them in my car so that isn't an option in my life at the moment.

"but does xm make bong noices?"

yes, everyday at 4:20 it comes on and says "Hey Eastern time zone, its 4:20" and then a bong noise comes on. An hour later, it does it for the central time zone, then mountain, then pacific. It gets old fast

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