HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 09, 2012 at 01:43 PM UTC
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kosmo wrote:
The take away from this is Ravers are good and Dubstreamer are bad? Isn't Rave so 20 years ago?
REPOST: you're way way way off here, if you don't get carles, you just don't get him, sorry.
kosmo
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 09, 2012 at 08:25 PM UTC
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With a name like Carles I suppose there is no use in trying…
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 01:58 AM UTC
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kosmo wrote:
With a name like Carles I suppose there is no use in trying…
Thousand Made-Up Loves
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 02:31 AM UTC
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Too bad the search function at HRO isn't working. His articles on he iPad DJ broad and the dude who tried to trade his iPod Touch for some chronic was some of the funniest shit I've ever read.
hutch
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 02:09 PM UTC
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maybe they're just letting in too many people…
sad to read about the downfall of the festival.. just cause its free don't make it great… personally i think the caliber of artists has gone noticeably down and although i had to miss this year i really didn't feel like i was missing anything special
James Ford
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 03:01 PM UTC
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There's kids activities, a kids play area, and bands/theater aimed at kids at Bumbershoot in Seattle. But I guess Bumbershoot is more of an arts community festival that just happens to also have top notch music acts aimed at a more age diverse crowd.
Whereas Freefest is aimed simply at getting the 15-29 crowd roped into the corporate party animal corral(?) And I suppose that's the "cool" thing for alot of people.
Giving away tickets is good and bad. It's good because some music fans probably wouldn't go otherwise. It's bad because some of the people who go probably aren't really music fans.
atomicfront wrote:
walkonby wrote:
RustyOrgan wrote:
Thousand wrote:
James wrote:
Unfortunately (to me) it seemed like this music festival was more about drunk teenagers in slutty costumes than anything else.
Who cares? You might be the the only person in the world complaining about chicks wearing revealing clothing. I hate to break it to you, but "rock" music festivals, by nature, aren't very family friendly.
nobody has said this in a while . . . post of the week.
Whatever at Newport people bring their babies and at Lolla they have a kids stage. Poor security and poorly run. Don't make excuses. Prior years I have attended the festival weren't like this. evidently management has gone downhill.
brokensocscene
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 03:19 PM UTC
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solution: get rid of the electronic stage. This stage attracts the younger crowd.
bumbershoot does not have an electronic stage.
James Ford
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 03:25 PM UTC
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I thought the same thing.
But why would they want to get rid of the younger crowd? To me, that's clearly the target audience for Freefest at this point.
And I'm ok with that. There's still plenty of live music options in the area to satiate my live music needs.
Vas wrote:
solution: get rid of the electronic stage. This stage attracts the younger crowd.
bumbershoot does not have an electronic stage.
brokensocscene
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 04:00 PM UTC
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to eliminate the whining on the board.
James wrote:
But why would they want to get rid of the younger crowd? To me, that's clearly the target audience for Freefest at this point.
Vas wrote:
solution: get rid of the electronic stage. This stage attracts the younger crowd.
bumbershoot does not have an electronic stage.
Yada
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 04:19 PM UTC
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Why are you guys comparing multi day nationall events that attract people from all over the world to a 10 hour festival held in Columbia, MD?
Thousand Made-Up Loves
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 06:39 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
Why are you guys comparing multi day nationall events that attract people from all over the world to a 10 hour festival held in Columbia, MD?
Because they're breeders and thus expect the world to cater to their whims.
beetsnotbeats
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 07:18 PM UTC
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It's the youngsters that the sponsors want, even require. They want to brand their brands on the kids' brains while they're still susceptible to branding, i.e. still building their brand loyalties and identities. Old folk ain't brandable. If it remains <i><b>Free</b></i>fest it will be geared to the kids.
atomicfront
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 07:23 PM UTC
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And why can't we complain about a festival that is run badly. They should know themselves that waiting a half hour to go in a spot-a-pot is unacceptible. No clear directions on where to park when we have always been able to park in the mpp parking lot is unacceptible. With cops directing us in circles. hour long food lines is either unacceptable or you let people bring their own food in. On the lollapalooza forum after every festival the organizers start threads where people can complain about that years festival.
I haven't experienced problems with the festival in the past either at mpp or at pimilico. So I am not complaining just to complain. Festival had problems either fix them or dont' do it next year. I am guessing they let more people in this year. I didn't attend last year so I don't know how that went down.
As the food lines were an issue at Florence and the Machine as well I think they might have problems at Mpp overall but never bathroom lines like they had.
James Ford
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 07:37 PM UTC
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While I'm in general agreement with you, I will say that I peed twice at that building that looked like a barn near the pavillion, and it took me no more than five minutes to get through the line each time.
And if you get really desperate, pee in an empty plastic cup. You don't even have to wait in line to do that.
And if you don't like food lines, carry your own in. Just sayin.
And though beer lines were long, the 932 bar was empty. Yes, I sucked it up and paid $9.50 each plus tips for a couple of shitty beers to wash our dinner down with.
I also read that attendance was actually down this year.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49323998/ns/local_news-baltimore_md/t/virgin-mobile-freefest-attendance-down/atomicfront wrote:
And why can't we complain about a festival that is run badly. They should know themselves that waiting a half hour to go in a spot-a-pot is unacceptible. No clear directions on where to park when we have always been able to park in the mpp parking lot is unacceptible. With cops directing us in circles. hour long food lines is either unacceptable or you let people bring their own food in. On the lollapalooza forum after every festival the organizers start threads where people can complain about that years festival.
I haven't experienced problems with the festival in the past either at mpp or at pimilico. So I am not complaining just to complain. Festival had problems either fix them or dont' do it next year. I am guessing they let more people in this year. I didn't attend last year so I don't know how that went down.
As the food lines were an issue at Florence and the Machine as well I think they might have problems at Mpp overall but never bathroom lines like they had.
sweetcell
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Re: Virgin Freefest 2012
October 10, 2012 at 08:07 PM UTC
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atomicfront wrote:
Festival had problems either fix them or dont' do it next year.
or don't attend. no one is owed a festival (especially a free one). speak with your wallet/feet.
atomicfront wrote:
I am guessing they let more people in this year.
yeah, that's my take on the this year's woes.
EDIT: interesting link, Ford. huh. the lines seemed to imply there were more people…