The College Basketball Thread

Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
just a public service announcement, that's all…

We only tolerate public service announcements with guitars on this board.

Originally posted by LonnieBeale:

So how are the Terps looking this year?

Don't know…I follow the 5-0, #4 ranked…
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Oh Pitt, 16-0 every year and can't get past that pesky sweet sixteen.

Oh Pitt, 16-0 every year and can't get past that pesky sweet sixteen.

Point taken…but this is the first year since 2001 where I really think this team has the depth and attitude to reach the Final Four. And even though Pitt won't be 16-0 this year, it'll be a good thing because they've put together a challenging nonconference schedule that will have the team ready come tournament time.

That matchup with Wisconsin on Dec. 16 is gonna be a battle.

"Pitt still won by 11 after a sluggish first half… it was their third game in three days"

Didn't Oakland play 3 games in 3 days as well?

Didn't Oakland play 3 games in 3 days as well?

Yeah, but Oakland didn't win all three games….

3 really good games last night

duke / marquette was the best of the season until about 4 minutes to play and the dookies just folded

3 really good games last night

Yeah, I caught second half of UCLA v. Kentucky…back and forth until the closing seconds.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by LonnieBeale:
Hoyas Fall to Old Dominion
Upset Ends 24-Year Winning Streak at McDonough Arena: Old Dominion 75, Georgetown 62

So how are the Terps looking this year?

Terps are 6-0, ranked 25th.. They won the Coaches for Cancer tourn. beating Michigan State and St Johns.. I think they will at least make the NCAA this year. The Sultan of Sweat returns.

i love when Duke Loses.

I realize Pitt won all 3, but the statement was made like an excuse for Pitt's narrow margin of victory over Oakland… "it was their third game in three days." I was merely stating that it 3 in 3 days for all teams involved. In fact, one could argue that it was tougher for Oakland than Pitt. Afterall, Pitt won by 26 the first night, 17 the next. They hardly should have been tired, having not had to play a 40 minute competitive game. Oakland did play 2 fairly competitive games the first 2 nights, having to play their starters the entire time.
Of course, don't take this like I am an Oakland fan, just not a huge BCS fan, so I don't like to give credit to a BCS school at the expense of a non-BCS school. It was 3 games in 3 days for all, but they are 18-22 year olds, they should be able to do that.

Do you know what "BCS" means? Bowl Championship Series…it doesn't in anyway apply to college basketball, because basketball does it right and implements a playoff system at the end of the regular season.

Speaking of BCS….when was the last time (prior to this week) that a school was concurrently ranked number 1 in both the football and basketball polls?

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Speaking of BCS….when was the last time (prior to this week) that a school was concurrently ranked number 1 in both the football and basketball polls?

notre dame in 74 for #1 in AP football / AP basketball … but ohio state hoops isn't ranked #1 in the AP, because the voters there have some iota of brains sloshing around up there

wasnt Texas number 1 in both polls just last year or the year before?

Originally posted by le sonick:
wasnt Texas number 1 in both polls just last year or the year before?

No. They both got to #2 at the same time, but never #1 at the same time.

UCLA was once ranked #1 in football and had won the national title in basketball the previous March, but by the time the first AP basketball poll came out in the fall, they were no longer #1 in football.

That means that The University of Notre Dame (1974) is the only university to do it in both AP polls concurrently (Ohio St. is currently #3 in AP hoops).

While technically you are right, basketball followers still uses the BCS term to indicate those in one of the six major conferences. I wasn't starting a pissing match, just in case you want to answer that basketball uses the term majors/mid-majors. Pick at the technical aspects of my post, rather than the meat of it. Either way, your Panthers won a squeaker, at home, over the mighty whatevers of Oakland. But hey, that WAS their 3rd game in 3 days. Whew, hope they recover.

Maybe Clark Kellogg needs to look at your post regarding how BCS does not refer to basketball.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9834465

Ever-improving Davids get early start on humbling Goliaths
Nov. 28, 2006
By Clark Kellogg
CBS Sports




If you didn't enjoy the first few weeks of the season, you can't call yourself a college hoops fan. We had a taste of March Madness in November, sans the season being over for the losers.


Brian Ligon shows off Butler's NIT championship trophy. (Getty Images)
All over the landscape there were power conference (BCS) schools losing to non-power conference schools:

â?¢ Butler won the NIT Season Tip-Off, beating Notre Dame, Indiana, Tennessee and Gonzaga;
â?¢ Oral Roberts beat Kansas, ranked No. 3 at the time;
â?¢ Air Force foiled Stanford, Colorado and Texas Tech;
â?¢ Jackson State won a thriller at Rutgers;
â?¢ Old Dominion dispatched Georgetown;
â?¢ Xavier defeated Villanova;
â?¢ Missouri State stunned Wisconsin;
â?¢ Vermont bounced Boston College;
â?¢ Buffalo beat Miami;
â?¢ Western Michigan edged Virginia Tech.

Granted, most of these wins were on neutral courts, but Air Force, Old Dominion, Oral Roberts and Vermont all earned true road wins.

I love the plethora of pre-conference events and tournaments. I won't pretend to understand the challenges, dynamics and financial considerations of scheduling, but I think it's healthy for college hoops to have BCS schools vs. non-BCS schools on neutral courts. In many cases, it's the only way for these matchups to occur outside of postseason play. And that's a shame.

I would also like to see more BCS schools do home-and-homes with a few non-BCS schools. It presents a real possibility for losses, both financially and on the court, but I think it would be good for the game.

Yes, I'm happy to update this thread! Maryland just beat Illinois to end their non-conference home win streak which started in 1998. 19th ranked Maryland's 8-0 start is its best since the 1988-89 team won its first 10.

Originally posted by jetelo:

All over the landscape there were power conference (BCS) schools losing to non-power conference schools:

â?¢ Butler won the NIT Season Tip-Off, beating Notre Dame, Indiana, Tennessee and Gonzaga;
â?¢ Oral Roberts beat Kansas, ranked No. 3 at the time;
â?¢ Air Force foiled Stanford, Colorado and Texas Tech;
â?¢ Jackson State won a thriller at Rutgers;
â?¢ Old Dominion dispatched Georgetown;
â?¢ Xavier defeated Villanova;
â?¢ Missouri State stunned Wisconsin;
â?¢ Vermont bounced Boston College;
â?¢ Buffalo beat Miami;
â?¢ Western Michigan edged Virginia Tech.

curious, if gonzaga had won, would kellogg have included it in that list?

i do have some issues with the teams listed- air force, oral roberts, butler, xavier and vermont have all made multiple trips to the tournament in the past few years. basketball is just a completely different animal than football- a great football team from a non-power conference can beat a bad team from a bcs conference, but, no way can it beat a good/great team. as shown in last year's ncaa basketball tournament, a good team from a non-power conference can beat a good team from a major conference.

several non-power conferences are just as good as the power conferences in basketball- i'm thinking of missouri valley and west coast, for instance.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by le sonick:
wasnt Texas number 1 in both polls just last year or the year before?

No. They both got to #2 at the same time, but never #1 at the same time.

UCLA was once ranked #1 in football and had won the national title in basketball the previous March, but by the time the first AP basketball poll came out in the fall, they were no longer #1 in football.

That means that The University of Notre Dame (1974) is the only university to do it in both AP polls concurrently (Ohio St. is currently #3 in AP hoops).

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however, they werent number one in both polls while both seasons were still ongoing. apparently in 1974 Notre Dame was number one in one sport that either hadnt begun or already ended. or something, this is according to ESPN last night.

so they said "no team has ever been number 1 in both AP polls while both seasons were active"

i was close with Texas, and that was off the top of my head!