The Groper Thread

quantity was always a problem with him
and I agree close to 75% of the times I saw him live sucked
but those other shows were awesome

he is a whiny ass bitch and that grew tiresome

His early output with Whiskeytown and Heartbreaker IMO are fantastic
I think Gold has some pretty standout moments too
but after that…never really peaked again
I did like cold roses and that tour tho

not that this is indicator of talent or good product
but I'm a little surprised he got nominated for two grammys in 2015

Biden
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT

AnalogFossa wrote:
Biden
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT

I’m not team Biden — Julian For The Future For Life — but neither this, nor the first allegation really constitutes groping in the way anyone uses that term. Rubbing noses and kissing someone on the back of the head, while weird and patriarchal and inappropriate, needs to be delineated from . . . well, virtually every other entry in this thread.

Julian, wrote:

AnalogFossa wrote:
Biden
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT

I’m not team Biden — Julian For The Future For Life — but neither this, nor the first allegation really constitutes groping in the way anyone uses that term. Rubbing noses and kissing someone on the back of the head, while weird and patriarchal and inappropriate, needs to be delineated from . . . well, virtually every other entry in this thread.

“It wasn’t sexual, but he did grab me by the head,” Amy Lappos, 43, told the Hartford Courant on Monday of her encounter with Biden at a Greenwich, Connecticut, event. “He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth.”

What are we constituting as "groping" these days?

AnalogFossa wrote:
What are we constituting as "groping" these days?

Something that specifically doesn't start with the accuser/victim feeling the need to state for the record as the first thing out of their mouth, "it wasn't sexual," but that's just me.

Is she saying it ultimately wasn't sexual, but only after he didn't kiss her on the mouth?  Or that even if she thought the kiss was coming, it wasn't sexual? 

Julian, wrote:

AnalogFossa wrote:
What are we constituting as "groping" these days?

Something that specifically doesn't start with "it wasn't sexual," but that's just me.

nkotb wrote:
Is she saying it ultimately wasn't sexual, but only after he didn't kiss her on the mouth?  Or that even if she thought the kiss was coming, it wasn't sexual? 

I could only guess.

I hate to agree with julian on anything other than Ratbastard…well is a ratbastard
and

needs to be delineated from . . . well, virtually every other entry in this thread.

I'm not sure how the Left is going to deal with this problem of throwing the baby out with the bathwater
but we need to be able to draw a line between weinstein and biden…it's insanity to think they are almost the same thing

look at what else this woman said
“If Biden truly supports women and gender equality he would step aside and support one of the many talented and qualified women running,” she added. “The same goes for the other men who have thrown their hat in the ring. Women are 52 percent of the population. We are not a minority, we are the majority. It is time we are represented as such. After 45 male presidents it is time we elect a woman.”

So she says it's not sexual …but really just wants to take out the white men

little disingenious

I also think this narative is being pushed hard by operatives on the Right and the media is just eating it up
how are we going to stop eating our own on the way to 2020

AnalogFossa wrote:
What are we constituting as "groping" these days?

I'm curious on YOUR opinion on this…you posted here like it was a legitimate accusation of groping…fanning the flames

Sïdehätch wrote:
“If Biden truly supports women and gender equality he would step aside and support one of the many talented and qualified women running,” she added. “The same goes for the other men who have thrown their hat in the ring. Women are 52 percent of the population. We are not a minority, we are the majority. It is time we are represented as such. After 45 male presidents it is time we elect a woman.”

To be fair, I agree with absolutely all of that with the exception of the premise that any man who runs for the Presidency isn't a TRUE SUPPORTER of gender equality. That's cuckoo bananas.

I mean, is William London from Doubt a groper?

EXT. THE PRINCIPAL’S OFFICE - MORNING


Sister Aloysius is looking through the window, down on the student populace. Her eyes narrow.


BACK TO SISTER JAMES


William takes a step towards her.


WILLIAM Sister, are we having the test today?


SISTER JAMES Tomorrow, William.


WILLIAM Is it long division?


SISTER JAMES Among other things.


Sister James turns away to greet another nun and William grabs her arm to ask her another question.


SISTER JAMES Good morning, Sister.


William touches her sleeve.


WILLIAM How much of it will be long division?


SISTER ALOYSIUS (O.S.) Boy!


THE WHOLE SCHOOL STOPS AND LOOKS UP


Sister Aloysius looks down on the courtyard from the balcony outside her office.


SISTER ALOYSIUS William London. Come up here! Come smartly now.


Pale and alone, William walks up the stairs.


SISTER ALOYSIUS Don’t make me wait.


FATHER FLYNN AND SISTER JAMES WATCH FROM BELOW As two of the girls confer.


ALICE (O.S.) What did he do?


SARAH (O.S.) He touched Sister James.


Flynn confides to Sister James.


FLYNN The dragon is hungry!


Sister James blushes with pleasure at the attention, stifles a giggle. The noise resumes.


SARAH (O.S.) You don’t touch a nun.

There has to be some difference between inappropriately touching someone for sexual reasons and incidental (for lack of a better word) inappropriate touching of someone. If I pat Sidehatch on the shoulder out of friendship without getting his consent first, should I be disqualified from holding public office? There is a giant chasm between incidental, non-sexual contact – which can still be quite inappropriate and "problematic," for sure – and the actual criminal sexual assaults that make up this thread.

Democrats going to sink Biden….great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

This is the weirdest mindset to me.  It's a primary…shouldn't we weed out the bad stuff now?  I mean, every knew Biden was a creep…shouldn't we deal with that kind of shit now rather than sweeping it under a rug for later? Make these folks answer for bad votes and explain why they did it, and if they've changed since then, make them show the work.

Also, LOL at Biden stans.

hutch wrote:
Democrats going to sink Biden….great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

hutch wrote:
Democrats going to sink Biden….great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

I'm not sure how Republicans could make this an issue given who their candidate is.

nkotb wrote:
I mean, every knew Biden was a creep…

Wait, we did?

I think they probably will. I mean, even Steve "David Duke without the Baggage" Scalise jumped on the Omar dogpile. These fucking scumbags are shameless. 

But I agree it won't do damage…not a single person that would be offended by Biden's groping would suddenly think to back an actual accused rapist. 

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
Democrats going to sink Biden….great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

I'm not sure how Republicans could make this an issue given who their candidate is.

Space wrote:

hutch wrote:
Democrats going to sink Biden….great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

I'm not sure how Republicans could make this an issue given who their candidate is.

from: nkotb on Today at 14:13:58

    I mean, every knew Biden was a creep…

This is the problem…and we are falling into the Right's game here…they don't hold their accountable, but they know if they stoke the fire…the libs will turn it into an inferno

I do think we should weed people out for sure…that is what the primary is for
but this is not an issue that he should drop out for

everyone knew he was famous for gaffs….creep …come on man.
worst offense is he's a huger …how is that offensive really

Wasn't that part of his meme persona? Just being a creepy old guy that was overly handsy with women?  The Onion even had some articles on the topic.

Julian, wrote:

nkotb wrote:
I mean, every knew Biden was a creep…

Wait, we did?

And Hillary was a liar


Look what we got


Democrats refuse to grow up and learn


I don’t think this would affect Biden in general but it kind of dooms him in primaries if he even decided to run at this point

nkotb wrote:
Wasn't that part of his meme persona? Just being a creepy old guy that was overly handsy with women?

I guess I never picked up on the handsy part and thought it was moreso your crazy uncle who still wants to do kegstands at 65.