Official 930 Supreme Court thread
^that's hysterical
Didn't bob Dylan release Love and theft on 9.11
Didn't bob Dylan release Love and theft on 9.11
This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but legally speaking Roe was equal parts brilliant jurisprudence and a patchwork so wrought with holes that it was on shaky ground from day one. Congresses unwillingness to legislate the right made this outcome inevitable. The only surprising thing to me was the circumstances that led to a 6-3 majority on the court.
Damn straight
Fifty years of precedent is not shaky ground!
I really dislike people smugly ascribing some legal rationale to these political hacks.
It is interesting that some reports had the ruling as 5-4 but it was 6-3 (but 5-4 on overturning)
But yeah there are always people happy to congratulate themselves and say they saw it coming and hell, yes, it even makes sense and point the finger at Congress.
We all saw it coming from the minute RBG died because we all knew the ruling would have zero to do with the constitution and everything to do with politics.
And since it’s pure politics (like Bush v Gore) the Supreme Court would have been fine declaring a law passed by Congress on abortion unconstitutional.
Fifty years of precedent is not shaky ground!
I really dislike people smugly ascribing some legal rationale to these political hacks.
It is interesting that some reports had the ruling as 5-4 but it was 6-3 (but 5-4 on overturning)
But yeah there are always people happy to congratulate themselves and say they saw it coming and hell, yes, it even makes sense and point the finger at Congress.
We all saw it coming from the minute RBG died because we all knew the ruling would have zero to do with the constitution and everything to do with politics.
And since it’s pure politics (like Bush v Gore) the Supreme Court would have been fine declaring a law passed by Congress on abortion unconstitutional.
Ok, I have to snark first
the president and CEO of Dicks is a female!
but I'm glad to see big corporations doing stuff like this
Damn included spouses and dependants!

the president and CEO of Dicks is a female!
but I'm glad to see big corporations doing stuff like this
Damn included spouses and dependants!
I'm actually pleasantly surprised that a retail sporting goods company would do this.
I don't expect Bass Pro Shops to follow.
I don't expect Bass Pro Shops to follow.
Ok, Dick's. Now pull out of anti-abortion states.
No pun intended?
Space wrote:
Ok, Dick's. Now pull out of anti-abortion states.
Cock wrote:I don't think he meant too…but that's a great pun on this topic
No pun intended?Space wrote:
Ok, Dick's. Now pull out of anti-abortion states.
Would make a great head line
Dicks pulls out
I will say, while I think it's great the corperations are steping up to the plate to do something to fight this insantiy
this is what I'm hearing…and I agree
David Plouffe@davidplouffe
It is important that so many employers are stating they will cover the cost of travel for employees in states with bans. But talk about a loss of privacy. How fucked up is it that women will now have to file expense reports to their colleagues for their abortion?
this is what I'm hearing…and I agree
David Plouffe@davidplouffe
It is important that so many employers are stating they will cover the cost of travel for employees in states with bans. But talk about a loss of privacy. How fucked up is it that women will now have to file expense reports to their colleagues for their abortion?
one thing that always blows my mind is 80 Million eligible American voters just don't vote
we have to find a way to make it simple/fair/verifiable to vote…that 100% should be the #1 priority of every state and local dem parties
it's the most important thing, nothing comes after if we can't fix this
and this is a State thing…not a federal thing, so the effort needs to be well planned as each state has it's own weirdness
we have to find a way to make it simple/fair/verifiable to vote…that 100% should be the #1 priority of every state and local dem parties
it's the most important thing, nothing comes after if we can't fix this
and this is a State thing…not a federal thing, so the effort needs to be well planned as each state has it's own weirdness
I would argue the opposite
We desperately need to find a way to make less people vote.
When more people come out to vote you get Trump. In the 1820s we went from having less people to more people vote and the US went from one of our greatest periods to the Jacksonian age and some pretty bad leadership in the 1840s and 50s that led to the civil war.
Unless we can find a way to smarten people up the last thing we need is everyone voting. Have you seen the average American?
We desperately need to find a way to make less people vote.
When more people come out to vote you get Trump. In the 1820s we went from having less people to more people vote and the US went from one of our greatest periods to the Jacksonian age and some pretty bad leadership in the 1840s and 50s that led to the civil war.
Unless we can find a way to smarten people up the last thing we need is everyone voting. Have you seen the average American?
next you are going to start promoting eugenics
No but this is meant to be a republic.
I mean what are you saying? If every person voted it would be a Bernie Sanders paradise?
This is America. Get to know it and accept what is before your eyes. Don’t lie to yourself.
I mean what are you saying? If every person voted it would be a Bernie Sanders paradise?
This is America. Get to know it and accept what is before your eyes. Don’t lie to yourself.
What’s odd is democrats have in my lifetime been the “make voting easier and more ubiquitous” and the GOP has tried to make people thread a needle to vote. (Trump famously said “if everyone votes, the Republicans will never win another election.”)
But here we find Starsky, a Dem, with a totally different contrarian view.
But here we find Starsky, a Dem, with a totally different contrarian view.
Julian, wrote:
But here we find Starsky, a Dem, with a totally different contrarian view.
You find this odd? If find it on brand.
useless wrote:Cock wrote:I don't think he meant too…but that's a great pun on this topic
No pun intended?Space wrote:
Ok, Dick's. Now pull out of anti-abortion states.
Would make a great head line
Dicks pulls out
Yes pun intended. Give me some credit man.
Space wrote:
Yes pun intended. Give me some credit man.
Ok, my bad and welll played
vansmack wrote:The Julian voice of reason can only pour it on but so thickly before it seems like a vendetta.Julian, wrote:
But here we find Starsky, a Dem, with a totally different contrarian view.
You find this odd? If find it on brand.
while I vote Democrat I don’t subscribe to everything the party stands for…the key to winning elections - D or R -is helping those that would vote for you to actually do so….. it’s not helping those that would vote against you to do so…my interest level in helping insurrection supporting deplorables vote is nil
Do we want to win elections, appoint reasonably sane justices and accomplish things or not?
never been convinced that if everyone voted it would benefit democrats or the country. But many Democrats throw that around like gospel with the baby argument that most people that don’t vote are poorer so would vote Democratic but we know this isn’t true. I know of countries were people must vote or face big fines and it hasn’t turned out very well.
We have had very high turnout recently and are getting pretty close to becoming an authoritarian state.
To quote an often used phrase the key toa functioning democracy is not just the quantity of votes but the quality of the voting
Do we want to win elections, appoint reasonably sane justices and accomplish things or not?
never been convinced that if everyone voted it would benefit democrats or the country. But many Democrats throw that around like gospel with the baby argument that most people that don’t vote are poorer so would vote Democratic but we know this isn’t true. I know of countries were people must vote or face big fines and it hasn’t turned out very well.
We have had very high turnout recently and are getting pretty close to becoming an authoritarian state.
To quote an often used phrase the key toa functioning democracy is not just the quantity of votes but the quality of the voting
