LCD Soundsystem Show Questions...

My intro to LCD was the cover story of the January 2005 (Issue 251) The Wire (not available on The Wire's site but scanned by LCD).

The sense I got from the article was that Murphy believes that the indie scene sucks as much as the major. His current music is his reaction: strip away all the crap and build new sounds out of what's left. It's a tried and true formula–punk was a reaction to prog rock, minimalism to serialism, classical to rococo, etc. Of course the influences are patent but after tearing away all the fat a skeleton remains. The Ramones built their sound on surf, garage and girl groups; Murphy likes the krauts and no-wavers.

As for supposed hipster-cred I don't think Murphy cares a flying fuck. Hip has become so commodified and politicized that it no longer holds any real value. "Losing My Edge" mocks hip til it whithers up and dies; for Murphy, it's time to move on and start making new sounds while still having fun regardless of whether anyone thinks its hip or not. Hip is dead and there's no use crying about it.

Originally posted by hmcd:
reading this message board infuriates me

i cant laugh at this statement hard enough!

Originally posted by hmcd:
it's like people never listened to lcd or M.I.A. before. honestly, before i dropped $20+ (depending where or when you got the tix) for a show, i'd read up.

well, you are probably right. This show was way hyped up, Sold Out even! MIA is totally wack (IMHO) and LCD has been kicking ass for several years now (Losin my edge is at least 2-3 years old). but all of a sudden its the show to go to, so everyone went and its not really surprising that there were people who said "wait a tick! i dont like this kind of music!!!!"
sad but true

great post (referring to beetsnotbeats)…i couldn't agree more. any criticisms i have of either MIA or LCD are purely aesthetic, as i don't doubt the sincerity of maya and murphy.

i knew my "white chick from chicago" comment would piss off somebody, and i only stand by it in the live context that i just experienced (so you can't take it as an accurate barometer of the whole artistic spectrum). whatever i have heard on record was infinitely better than what i saw live, and i already explained what i felt was lacking. i didn't realize that she doesn't think so highly of her vocal skills, and i think her concepts got buried in sunday's set. so what i meant by my comment, based on the music that emanated from the stage, was that it was no better than the mediocre electroclash crap every art-school chick with legwarmers was making in 2002.

and sonick, what does file sharing have to do with being "genuine" or "real"? shoot ur shot was talking about sincerity on a purely artistic level.

I agree abt the energy level. I'm a bit late, but Can anyone provide names of LCD's last 2 songs (covers)?

Originally posted by SalParadise:

encore:
one or two songs that i didn't recognize.

it's all about perspective, but from where i was standing (floor, center about 15-20 ft back from the stage)…best, most energetic crowd i've ever seen at 930. [/QB]

hahaha salparadise, good shit. But hey man when you go on stage strutting a Can shirt, your band is subject to scrutiny a bit more than any other dance punk band, who I'm generally not a fan of but usually find harmless nonetheless.

sonickteam: I throw down absurds amount of cash on music every month. Unfortunately I'm not rolling in it to be buying a CD/LP for only 2 or 3 tracks. Odds are I'll get bored of them after about one or two listens and bounce them anyway. Giving them that second chance only opens up the possibility of improving my impression of their music. I first heard LCD in the fall of last year when my roommate at college had acquired their album from a p2p file-sharing client and played it for me. If it weren't for mp3's, lcd and m.i.a. would have probably never gotten as big as they have, especially in regards to artists like lcd soundsystem/dfa records who don't get heavy radio/video airtime. Do you think the DFA remixes gained so much attention because their fans all happen to be DJ's collecting all of their sides? Why do you think every band and their mothers has a myspace.com band website loaded with mp3's now? It amazes me that there's still people that don't realize the immense marketing potential available through file sharing. I wish people would educate themselves further on this before forming such strong opinions. This is a decent article in favor of p2p file sharing. Please read through it when you can.

hmcd, point well taken but after looking over the song lyrics, mr. murphy seems to be highly critical of not only name-dropping hipster kids, but a slam on all musical trends in western popular music. The lyric "I hear that you and your band have sold your guitars and bought turntables.
I hear that you and your band have sold your turntables and bought guitars." is critical of music enthusiasts that attach themselves to certain musical movements in attempts to be cutting edge, but lack any cogency or real musical erudition to form educated opinions about music. Thus rendering all trends in music meaningless, full of contradictions and flirtatious amateurs. All ofwhich is an outlook I tend to share myself. But, what it seems to boil down to is James Murphy telling everyone that they are unqualified to criticize or "box in" the music of LCD Soundsystem which is a pretty arrogant stance to take. The song is more than likely a response to some negative criticism james murphy came across in a music publication or webzine, which most songs like this tend to stem from. I maintain that the extensive list of bands tacked on at the end is in poor taste and detracts from his main point and is completely unnecessary. I do suspect that he is precisely one of those same hipsters he is mocking.

Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
I maintain that the extensive list of bands tacked on at the end is in poor taste and detracts from his main point and is completely unnecessary. I do suspect that he is precisely one of those same hipsters he is mocking.

From The Wire article linked above:

"In interviews or emails I try to be as transparent as I can be so it's not like, 'Here's the new cool'," Murphy says. "That's something I try to avoid. The funny thing is, when I most publicly tried to deal with that issue was what made me the coolest. "Losing My Edge" made me really cool, which I think is the funniest, most absurd thing ever. Doesn't anybody get it? All right, nobody gets it. That's what interviews are for."

But the reason people responded so strongly to "Losing My Edge" was that Murphy was willing to make himself part of the joke.

Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
what it seems to boil down to is James Murphy telling everyone that they are unqualified to criticize or "box in" the music of LCD Soundsystem which is a pretty arrogant stance to take. The song is more than likely a response to some negative criticism james murphy came across in a music publication or webzine, which most songs like this tend to stem from. I maintain that the extensive list of bands tacked on at the end is in poor taste and detracts from his main point and is completely unnecessary. I do suspect that he is precisely one of those same hipsters he is mocking.

You're looking way too into it and I would suggest trying to find the answer from the horses mouth rather than speculating as you have done here.

EDIT: Apparently the horse has been found. Nicely done beetsnotbeats.

Originally posted by shoot ur shot:

sonickteam: I throw down absurds amount of cash on music every month. Unfortunately I'm not rolling in it to be buying a CD/LP for only 2 or 3 tracks. Odds are I'll get bored of them after about one or two listens and bounce them anyway. Giving them that second chance only opens up the possibility of improving my impression of their music. I first heard LCD in the fall of last year when my roommate at college had acquired their album from a p2p file-sharing client and played it for me. If it weren't for mp3's, lcd and m.i.a. would have probably never gotten as big as they have, especially in regards to artists like lcd soundsystem/dfa records who don't get heavy radio/video airtime. Do you think the DFA remixes gained so much attention because their fans all happen to be DJ's collecting all of their sides? Why do you think every band and their mothers has a myspace.com band website loaded with mp3's now? It amazes me that there's still people that don't realize the immense marketing potential available through file sharing. I wish people would educate themselves further on this before forming such strong opinions. This is a decent article in favor of p2p file sharing. Please read through it when you can.

i never said i was against file sharing.

As far as I'm concerned, husky or not.. Murphy is a sexy guy. Especially after that performance. Nobody stays 22 forever and some of us aren't afraid of a little extra padding. Next time stay home and watch MTV if you want to rub one out or can't suffer the "real world".

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
i never said i was against file sharing.

fuggg.. yer right. totally misinterpreted what you said and am regretting wasting my energy in typing that little spiel. :mad:

Originally posted by shoot ur shot:

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
i never said i was against file sharing.

fuggg.. yer right. totally misinterpreted what you said and am regretting wasting my energy in typing that little spiel. :mad:

its ok! i regret wasting my energy a lot on this board, but its fun! suppose i am just mad cause i didnt go to the show…