kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 05:39 PM UTC
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It's the full length Dead 60's CD out recently in the US… when I popped the CD into my work computer it promptly wanted me to install software in order to even listen to the thing… Same with the an import Doves disc i won in a giveway. i'm certain it's the same copy protection software and was trying to find the logo to post here.
i will never pay retail again for any cd that has that protection even if it's easily defeated. may buy it used or if it's something i really want directly from the artist at a show.
if consumers want to take a stand against these technologies then they need to boycott all Sony and Universal products. tough sell i admit.
or get creative and make a coordinated effort to mass buy a CD at some retailer and then attempt to return it the next day. make the retailer cope with pain as well..
it's great how Apple is protrayed as the bad actor in this battle…
and if all else fails buy a cd recorder and hookup a opitical digital cable.,,
or find the person on the street selling the cdr
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 05:39 PM UTC
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Originally posted by vansmack:
That's the article I read. Thanks GGW for posting it.
There was a similar LA Times article yesterday which included this nugget:
"Sony BMG is heading even faster down the same road. About half of the discs it releases in the United States today have the three-copy limit, and
it plans to have a similar restriction on all of its U.S. releases by the end of the year, said Thomas Hesse, president of the companyâ??s global digital music business."
bags
Joined: October 30, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 05:43 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
"Its just a proprietary decision by Apple to decide whether to play along or not," Mr. Hesse said.
Okay, wait, who's being proprietary here. Argument can be made just as easily that it's Microsoft, my friend. You telling me they can't just flip a software switch as well?
All I can say is thank god no one bothers to write restrictions or viruses for Apple hardware. I would lose my mind if I couldn't get my Foo on my iPod…
kosmo
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 05:47 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by vansmack:
That's the article I read. Thanks GGW for posting it.
There was a similar LA Times article yesterday which included this nugget:
"Sony BMG is heading even faster down the same road. About half of the discs it releases in the United States today have the three-copy limit, and it plans to have a similar restriction on all of its U.S. releases by the end of the year, said Thomas Hesse, president of the companyâ??s global digital music business."
which is why consumers need to take them on now, not that i buy much sony stuff to begin with…
buy promos screw the artist and the label…
vansmack
Joined: October 04, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 05:51 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
[qb]All I can say is thank god no one bothers to write restrictions or viruses for Apple hardware.
Who's going to waste their time writing code that will effect 8 % of the market?
bags
Joined: October 30, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 05:54 PM UTC
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
[qb]All I can say is thank god no one bothers to write restrictions or viruses for Apple hardware.
Who's going to waste their time writing code that will effect 8 % of the market?
yeah yeah yeah….all the more reason I stay.
<img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/newpage17/14.gif" alt=" - " />
kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 06:03 PM UTC
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it would interesting to see the bloggers reaction to the cd which can't be copied to their iPods. dmb and foos aren't good test cases, but Holey Moley would it get ugly if the next Firey Furnances CD was released like that…
vansmack
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 06:30 PM UTC
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
it would interesting to see the bloggers reaction to the cd which can't be copied to their iPods. dmb and foos aren't good test cases, but Holey Moley would it get ugly if the next Firey Furnances CD was released like that…
I think the exact opposite is true. Bloggers are fairly tech and internet literate and can quickly and easily find out how to defeat the copy controls.
It's the more pop oriented and casual computer users that buy the DMB album and the Foo's that wouldn't know how to get around it that could potentially make the biggest stink.
Just imagine a kid going up to their parents and asking for $10 more to buy the iTunes version of a CD they just bought at Target so it can play on the kids iPod. I can see it a local news expose as I type this….
godsshoeshine
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 06:31 PM UTC
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wow, that's terrible. even if i bought that cd, i'd download it rather than go through the crack. kinda counter poductive, if you ask me
sukihaywood
Joined: October 29, 2003 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 06:55 PM UTC
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Kosmo: I LOOOOVVVVEEE the Nic Armstrong and the Thieves CD; they were great at the Black Cat last month opening for Louis XIV!!!!! Next "Hey Seth" thread, I'm making an official request. ;)
kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 07:05 PM UTC
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
it would interesting to see the bloggers reaction to the cd which can't be copied to their iPods. dmb and foos aren't good test cases, but Holey Moley would it get ugly if the next Firey Furnances CD was released like that…
I think the exact opposite is true. Bloggers are fairly tech and internet literate and can quickly and easily find out how to defeat the copy controls.
It's the more pop oriented and casual computer users that buy the DMB album and the Foo's that wouldn't know how to get around it that could potentially make the biggest stink.
Just imagine a kid going up to their parents and asking for $10 more to buy the iTunes version of a CD they just bought at Target so it can play on the kids iPod. I can see it a local news expose as I type this….
true bloggers are more tech savvy.. but they also like to get up in arms about such barriers and wont take kindly to Apple being protrayed as a bad player in this issue.
whats so funny about this whole madness is what its going to cost sony/bmg in manpower to deal with all these requests for support. of course those costs get passed right back to the artists…
hostiledm
Joined: March 27, 2005 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 07:23 PM UTC
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Just an FYI on dual disks, Im not tech savy mind you, but I cant get the cd side to copy, or load on my mp3 player.
The benifits of these disks do rule. The 5.1 mixes are great, but it does suck.
kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 07:27 PM UTC
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i've heard you cant play the dual disc in slot loading players like car stereos… or you end up scratching the dvd side
kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 07:30 PM UTC
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i need to go back and read some on the dual dics but i recall that the cd is not a standard format and get tripped up in players expecting a strict redbook(?) format
hostiledm
Joined: March 27, 2005 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 07:30 PM UTC
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Yeah man, I just keep em' with my dvdaudio disks, and only use them in the dvd player. So whats the point of the cd side? nada. But I do still like the concept. Anything to get more releases in a 5.1 format.
Darth Ed
Joined: May 19, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 08:26 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Darth Ed:
Anybody know if it will rip on a Mac? I've purchased several copy-protected discs before and I've been able to rip them on my Mac every time. It seems the CD copy protection that I've encountered so far has only worked on Windows. I'm just wondering if the Foo Fighters disc uses the same kind of copy protection.
I know it's bad forum etiquette to answer your own question, but no one else did. :) I just got back from Target where I picked it up for $9.98+tax (yeah, I know, but there's a Target about a mile from where I work), and I just popped both discs into my Mac, ripped them, and am copying them to my iPod as I write this…
Copy protection? What copy protection? :D
bags
Joined: October 30, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 15, 2005 at 08:46 PM UTC
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
i've heard you cant play the dual disc in slot loading players like car stereos… or you end up scratching the dvd side
f***, f***, f***….
Well, I've got a mac, so I can download a friend's copy, right?
-edit-
Never mind, I'll head to Target!
kosmo
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 16, 2005 at 10:05 AM UTC
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<img src="
http://www.fnac.com/help/img/logo_copy.gif" alt=" - " />
This logo plus the phrase "Copy Controlled" or "Content Protected" are now the international do not buy signs.
The Doves CD that came with the Copy Control sw on the cd was the import version with the CD & DVD.
Chip Chanko
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: New Foo Fighters
June 16, 2005 at 11:41 AM UTC
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if anyone cares about what was posted at that thread, i copied the text before it was taken down.
Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
wow, i would be really fucking pissed if i was a foo fighters fan … no respect at all …
what's really funny, is that on the band's OFFICIAL message board, the admins are posting ways around the copy protection:
http://www.foofighters.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=8335
