chaz
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 02:58 PM UTC
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No Rhett…I wasn't there but i'm sure it's as you so passive-agressively suggest - everyone got ripped off. Your entertainment dollars were spent much more wisely.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I guess I should have phrased it as a question:
Does this band play long songs, or are they shortchanging their fans on their hard earned $35 by giving them a short set?
I saw one of my favorites, BR549, do a two hour set of perhaps 25-30 songs last night, for $12. That's about what I'd expect in a good show.
Originally posted by chaz:
Typical baiting by Rhett….
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
They don't play many songs, do they?
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
Setlist from 05/15/04 (Minneapolis, MN @ Quest):
01> Sucker Train Blues
02> Do It for the Kids
03> Head Space
04> Crackerman
05> Illegal I
06> It's So Easy *
07> Fall To Pieces
08> Big Machine
09> Set Me Free
10> Used To Love Her *
11> Slither
12> Sex Type Thing **
13> Mr.Brownstone *
14> Negative Creep **
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* : GNR song
** : STP song
*** : Nirvana song
El Tee
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 03:26 PM UTC
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I dunno I don't really look at shows and tickets like in this. I do understand what you are asking and why you feel that way. I suppose if I'm really short-changed, and I mean on real lack of songs, or someone left the stage, yes, I would feel ripped off. But last night, no, I didn't. Yes, actually, a few of their songs were long (the new ones). I supposed they pack a lot into a short set by quality and energy. The price might be a little higher - it's two bands that have high recognition (whether you like them or not). Gotta pay for that sometimes.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I guess I should have phrased it as a question:
Does this band play long songs, or are they shortchanging their fans on their hard earned $35 by giving them a short set?
I saw one of my favorites, BR549, do a two hour set of perhaps 25-30 songs last night, for $12. That's about what I'd expect in a good show.
Originally posted by chaz:
Typical baiting by Rhett….
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
They don't play many songs, do they?
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
Setlist from 05/15/04 (Minneapolis, MN @ Quest):
01> Sucker Train Blues
02> Do It for the Kids
03> Head Space
04> Crackerman
05> Illegal I
06> It's So Easy *
07> Fall To Pieces
08> Big Machine
09> Set Me Free
10> Used To Love Her *
11> Slither
12> Sex Type Thing **
13> Mr.Brownstone *
14> Negative Creep **
–
* : GNR song
** : STP song
*** : Nirvana song
skeeter
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 03:31 PM UTC
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Not to mention you're seeing them in a venue much smaller than what they could have played. That's gonna cost a little extra. $35 sounds like a bargain for this one.
At least they showed up, which is more than you could guarantee if Axl was in the band.
nycmaddog
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 03:32 PM UTC
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Went. Saw. Mildly enjoyed. Super glad I went, but I just can't get behind the band idea. I'd sit and listen/watch Slash play all nigh long. Post "Core" I never cared much for STP (I think they turned their backs on a great album with each follow up). I'll probably pick up the album with the hope that I'm missing something from the first few listens. I hope this works out for all of them. I'm not sure they get another run at their former glory if this one doesn't go.
Good show.
Rhett Miller
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 03:33 PM UTC
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I guess if I pay for a full show, I want at least 90 minutes of action.
If I pay for a movie, I want a 90+ minute movie, not a 60 minute movie.
If I pay for a four course meal, I want more than the entree.
If I pay for a baseball game, I want 9 innings, not 6.
If I paid for an NBA game, I'd want 4 quarters, not 3.
If I paid for a hockey game (which I never would), I'd want three periods, not two.
El Tee
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 03:48 PM UTC
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Originally posted by nycmaddog:
Went. Saw. Mildly enjoyed. Super glad I went, but I just can't get behind the band idea. I'd sit and listen/watch Slash play all nigh long.
Me too. I don't really like Scott Weiland's voice.
And yes, seeing them in a smaller venue was great.
Rhett Miller
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 03:55 PM UTC
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No, that was Wilco. And I bet they will play more than 14 songs, even if they do throw in a couple more than 10 minutes in length. Got tickets for that one too. Thanks, Pollard.
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I saw one of my favorites, BR549, do a two hour set of perhaps 25-30 songs last night, for $12. That's about what I'd expect in a good show.
$12 and I bet they didnt sell out in ten minutes.
chaz
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 04:15 PM UTC
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These are all fine analogies but the issue I'm driving at is your need to always define for everyone what quality entertainment is or should be.
And as far as set length goes…I've been to just as many shows where I wished the band played a shorter set as shows where I wished it was longer, maybe even more. So for me, set length just isn't one of major defining criteria for how much I enjoy a show. Everything I've heard about Velvet Revolver is that the shows are about hour and 15 or 20 min. Seems just fine for a rock show to me.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I guess if I pay for a full show, I want at least 90 minutes of action.
If I pay for a movie, I want a 90+ minute movie, not a 60 minute movie.
If I pay for a four course meal, I want more than the entree.
If I pay for a baseball game, I want 9 innings, not 6.
If I paid for an NBA game, I'd want 4 quarters, not 3.
If I paid for a hockey game (which I never would), I'd want three periods, not two.
bags
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 04:16 PM UTC
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You can't compare a concert to a sports event. A concert does not have quarters, periods, innings – a specific framework that takes the show to completion with a clear win or loss (or tie, regardless – a measurable 'end').
V.R. has
one album out – they're basically a new band, but they have a huge fan base dying to see them already (hence the price, which isn't outlandish, really, when you look at market demand) and they in fact did a favor by playing a smaller venue.
A lot of shows I see run about 60 minutes because they're newer bands with just one album out. Sometimes they're phenomenal, sometimes not so much. I don't understand this long list of requirements some folks have for shows. Sure, if a band played 20 mintues I'd feel cheated, but that would be a pretty rare occurence. But I'd also feel cheated by a band that played two hours or more and was lousy and disinterested.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I guess if I pay for a full show, I want at least 90 minutes of action.
If I pay for a movie, I want a 90+ minute movie, not a 60 minute movie.
If I pay for a four course meal, I want more than the entree.
If I pay for a baseball game, I want 9 innings, not 6.
If I paid for an NBA game, I'd want 4 quarters, not 3.
If I paid for a hockey game (which I never would), I'd want three periods, not two.
nycmaddog
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 04:40 PM UTC
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For what it's worth, I thought they performed for just long enough. I would have enjoyed more, but as has been mentioned, they have one album (that they are promoting) and there's no point in distracting too much from it with covers of your old band's songs.
As the line in Amadeus goes "And which notes would his majesty believe should be removed?" They are the band, we are the willing audience. I felt properly entertained for my $30.
DAV10250
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 05:06 PM UTC
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I totally have to disagree with the criticism of Weiland I am seeing in this thread. He is the consumate frontman, and has a kick ass voice. I don't know if you are familiar with the other vocalists begging to join this project…but would rather hear Sebastian Bach bellowing?
bags
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 05:23 PM UTC
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Originally posted by DAV10250:
would rather hear Sebastian Bach bellowing?
selfishly yes – how hysterical would that be?!?!?
chaz
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 05:24 PM UTC
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Sebastian Bach is the last thing I ever want to hear. Weiland's a decent singer. STP and GnR had their moments, sure, and both are highly regarded by many, but they're just not my thing.
Don't worry if people are slagging weiland..he's just an obvious target around here.
However…What's up with that Weiland guy? Must be the worst drug addict ever. Guy can't even smoke a joint without getting raided by the cops! He should pick a hobby he's a little better at! ;)
Rhett Miller
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Re: Velvet Revolver roll call
May 28, 2004 at 05:30 PM UTC
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Why should she, since she's usually had her orgasm long before 90 minutes?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[qb] I want at least 90 minutes of action.
good thing your wife doesnt feel the same way