Although Sebestian Bach's voice is 1000% times better than the majority of singers out there, he just wouldn't fit in with the rest of Velvet Revolver.
Velvet Revolver roll call
Originally posted by Jaguär:Agreed, but when I saw STP, Blind Melon and Neil Young back in the early/mid 90s, he was much less of an exact Mick Jagger rip-off. He was always all over the stage, but from what I saw on Letterman, he was a dead ringer for Jagger circa 83.
Originally posted by vansmack:He's always been a prancing ponce.
And when did Scott Weiland become the next Mick Jagger?
So there you go…as long as you 'get the goods,' measuring by time makes no sense.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why should she, since she's usually had her orgasm long before 90 minutes?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:good thing your wife doesnt feel the same way
[qb] I want at least 90 minutes of action.
Sorry, for me, a 60 minute show is not "getting the goods" It takes longer than that for me to travel round trip to a club.
Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
So there you go…as long as you 'get the goods,' measuring by time makes no sense.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why should she, since she's usually had her orgasm long before 90 minutes?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:good thing your wife doesnt feel the same way
[qb] I want at least 90 minutes of action.
imo, he's a decent singer, and last night I didn't mind it at all. Reflecting on the show, based upon what I listen to now, his voice is not my cup o' tea at this juncture. I didn't mean to compartamentalize his voice by saying I didn't like it, really what I meant. He's fun on-stage, but I get that it bothers some.
Originally posted by chaz:
Weiland's a decent singer.
You know what you like and what you don't like, that is good. But seriously, sometimes these money/rationality issues are a bit much. I was running late last night and thought it was silly to head downtown for an hour. But, lucky for me, the shows I see are generally good, most never are "just" one hour, and I end up seeing my friends (and stay to chat after0. I receive value out of all. "Quality not quantity" I say.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sorry, for me, a 60 minute show is not "getting the goods" It takes longer than that for me to travel round trip to a club.
Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
So there you go…as long as you 'get the goods,' measuring by time makes no sense.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why should she, since she's usually had her orgasm long before 90 minutes?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:good thing your wife doesnt feel the same way
[qb] I want at least 90 minutes of action.
Sorry, I guess I'm just a number cruncher at heart.
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
You know what you like and what you don't like, that is good. But seriously, sometimes these money/rationality issues are a bit much. I was running late last night and thought it was silly to head downtown for an hour. But, lucky for me, the shows I see are generally good, most never are "just" one hour, and I end up seeing my friends (and stay to chat after0. I receive value out of all. "Quality not quantity" I say.Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Sorry, for me, a 60 minute show is not "getting the goods" It takes longer than that for me to travel round trip to a club.
Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
So there you go…as long as you 'get the goods,' measuring by time makes no sense.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Why should she, since she's usually had her orgasm long before 90 minutes?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:good thing your wife doesnt feel the same way
[qb] I want at least 90 minutes of action.
it was $25 by the way
but, you know, what we ought to do is find out how long a band plays and then base the ticket price on thatâ?¦or maybe get a credit card imprint from everyone on the way in and charge per minute, kind of like a parking garage
and then have different rates based on whether they sucked or not
that way, a really good band that plays a long time might cost you $50 but, then again, you might only pay $5 for a shitty band that has a fight and ends early
but, you know, what we ought to do is find out how long a band plays and then base the ticket price on thatâ?¦or maybe get a credit card imprint from everyone on the way in and charge per minute, kind of like a parking garage
and then have different rates based on whether they sucked or not
that way, a really good band that plays a long time might cost you $50 but, then again, you might only pay $5 for a shitty band that has a fight and ends early
I like your thinkin', seth.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Why should she, since she's usually had her orgasm long before 90 minutes?
You can only give her one orgasm per session then huh?
My wife would never settle for that.
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:Just think if they did something similar with sports….Orioles, Redskins and Capitals would all be bankrupt after last seasons debacle.
it was $25 by the way
but, you know, what we ought to do is find out how long a band plays and then base the ticket price on thatâ?¦or maybe get a credit card imprint from everyone on the way in and charge per minute, kind of like a parking garage
and then have different rates based on whether they sucked or not
that way, a really good band that plays a long time might cost you $50 but, then again, you might only pay $5 for a shitty band that has a fight and ends early
Exactly. Pay-Per-View would be bankrupt after some boxing matches.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:Just think if they did something similar with sports….Orioles, Redskins and Capitals would all be bankrupt after last seasons debacle.
it was $25 by the way
but, you know, what we ought to do is find out how long a band plays and then base the ticket price on thatâ?¦or maybe get a credit card imprint from everyone on the way in and charge per minute, kind of like a parking garage
and then have different rates based on whether they sucked or not
that way, a really good band that plays a long time might cost you $50 but, then again, you might only pay $5 for a shitty band that has a fight and ends early
She would if she experienced the amazing orgasms i give.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] Why should she, since she's usually had her orgasm long before 90 minutes?
You can only give her one orgasm per session then huh?
My wife would never settle for that.
Money aside and very generally speaking, it's the 45 minute and under headliner sets that bug me. It's usually not even worth the bother or setting up the equipement for a shorty like that. On the other hand, I think I'd have to kill myself if someone made me sit through an entire GBV set. (Sorry Pollard. Nothing personal. ;) )
June 2, 2004
POP REVIEW | VELVET REVOLVER
A Supergroup With the Roots Showing
By JON PARELES
The New York Times
Velvet Revolver had all the moves when it played Roseland last week. There was the five-shirtless-guys move, discarding black T-shirts one by one. There was the singer's bell-bottom prance and hip-thrusting shake. There was the leaning-on-the-nonchalant-guitarist move and the drummer-slamming-the-gong move.
The members of Velvet Revolver have had plenty of time to perfect their rock-star struts because they arrive with experience. The lead singer, Scott Weiland, led the 1990's grunge band Stone Temple Pilots until his drug problems capsized what had been a million-selling act. The drummer, Matt Sorum; the bassist, Duff McKagan; and the guitarist Slash were in Guns N' Roses. That band recharged hard rock in the 1980's but has been foundering as its leader, Axl Rose, hires and fires musicians and makes and remakes a long-delayed album. A second guitarist, Dave Kushner, came from lesser-known bands.
So Velvet Revolver arrived at Roseland last Wednesday as an old-fashioned supergroup: a merger of Guns N' Roses' punked-up glam-rock and Stone Temple Pilots' grunge. And as in the corporate mergers that clogged the media business in the 1990's, there's a clash of precedents. Mr. Weiland's toughest job is deciding whether to be a stand-in for Mr. Rose or to continue the darker, more cryptic side he showed in Stone Temple Pilots.
Apparently the band has majority rule; Velvet Revolver sounds far closer to Guns N' Roses, playing bluesy hard rock rather than sodden grunge.
And Mr. Weiland accepts the job, from appearing in a military/chauffeur's hat to shimmying his hips just like Mr. Rose. The songs are about the gripes of the rich and famous â?? "All that first-class jet set brings me down," Mr. Weiland sang â?? and from the Stone Temple Pilots side, about lingering obsessions with God, sin and redemption.
"Slither," the band's first single, is an atypical chunk of moody grunge, a misleading introduction to a band that's far more about straightforward rock.
Slash stepped forward repeatedly for solos that started with bent bluesy notes and headed for fast squiggles; the rhythm section had Guns N' Roses swing. Velvet Revolver's inevitable ballad, "Fall to Pieces," was an obvious attempt to remake Guns N' Roses' "November Rain." But Mr. Weiland doesn't have a voice as unmistakable as Mr. Rose's bitter yowl; he's more of a whiner.
It was proudly old-fashioned rock, Hollywood style, switching between narcissism and surliness, and it had a slightly preserved quality despite the band's proficiency.
Eventually another hat told the story: Slash put on his tall hat with the silver band, and Velvet Revolver turned into a Guns N' Roses tribute.
The band overreached to end with Nirvana's "Negative Creep," pounding away like professionals while completely gutting the song of its lunging, sneering, outcast attitude. Velvet Revolver is a band of insiders hoping for brand recognition, posturing as hard as it can.
POP REVIEW | VELVET REVOLVER
A Supergroup With the Roots Showing
By JON PARELES
The New York Times
Velvet Revolver had all the moves when it played Roseland last week. There was the five-shirtless-guys move, discarding black T-shirts one by one. There was the singer's bell-bottom prance and hip-thrusting shake. There was the leaning-on-the-nonchalant-guitarist move and the drummer-slamming-the-gong move.
The members of Velvet Revolver have had plenty of time to perfect their rock-star struts because they arrive with experience. The lead singer, Scott Weiland, led the 1990's grunge band Stone Temple Pilots until his drug problems capsized what had been a million-selling act. The drummer, Matt Sorum; the bassist, Duff McKagan; and the guitarist Slash were in Guns N' Roses. That band recharged hard rock in the 1980's but has been foundering as its leader, Axl Rose, hires and fires musicians and makes and remakes a long-delayed album. A second guitarist, Dave Kushner, came from lesser-known bands.
So Velvet Revolver arrived at Roseland last Wednesday as an old-fashioned supergroup: a merger of Guns N' Roses' punked-up glam-rock and Stone Temple Pilots' grunge. And as in the corporate mergers that clogged the media business in the 1990's, there's a clash of precedents. Mr. Weiland's toughest job is deciding whether to be a stand-in for Mr. Rose or to continue the darker, more cryptic side he showed in Stone Temple Pilots.
Apparently the band has majority rule; Velvet Revolver sounds far closer to Guns N' Roses, playing bluesy hard rock rather than sodden grunge.
And Mr. Weiland accepts the job, from appearing in a military/chauffeur's hat to shimmying his hips just like Mr. Rose. The songs are about the gripes of the rich and famous â?? "All that first-class jet set brings me down," Mr. Weiland sang â?? and from the Stone Temple Pilots side, about lingering obsessions with God, sin and redemption.
"Slither," the band's first single, is an atypical chunk of moody grunge, a misleading introduction to a band that's far more about straightforward rock.
Slash stepped forward repeatedly for solos that started with bent bluesy notes and headed for fast squiggles; the rhythm section had Guns N' Roses swing. Velvet Revolver's inevitable ballad, "Fall to Pieces," was an obvious attempt to remake Guns N' Roses' "November Rain." But Mr. Weiland doesn't have a voice as unmistakable as Mr. Rose's bitter yowl; he's more of a whiner.
It was proudly old-fashioned rock, Hollywood style, switching between narcissism and surliness, and it had a slightly preserved quality despite the band's proficiency.
Eventually another hat told the story: Slash put on his tall hat with the silver band, and Velvet Revolver turned into a Guns N' Roses tribute.
The band overreached to end with Nirvana's "Negative Creep," pounding away like professionals while completely gutting the song of its lunging, sneering, outcast attitude. Velvet Revolver is a band of insiders hoping for brand recognition, posturing as hard as it can.