Rhett Miller
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:06 PM UTC
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In your esitmation, what president's are "legends", and what did they do to earn their legendary status?
Aren't Guided By Voices and the Fall legendary? :D
Originally posted by redsock:
sigh… it always turns into one of these messy little arguments. And coincidentally, Rhett is in the minority again. It's sad when anyone dies, true enough. I think what most of the folks are reacting to is the non-stop, never-ending, relentless push by reagan-supporters (who also happen to have prominent roles in the current administration) to make him the be-all end-all. If you liked Reagan, you tend to REALLY like him. And vice-versa. Regardless of his accomplishments, good or bad, he is not the legend his followers make him out to be. And to be beaten over the head with a solid week of this propaganda is a daunting task. It's unfortunate his last years were so difficult, and I do feel for Nancy (even thoguh she's always seemed a bit odd herself). But in the end, his legacy in the eyes of non-republicans is not an entirely positive one. Thus, we quickly grow tired of all the media coverage etc…
Rhett Miller
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:12 PM UTC
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Turn your television off and do something else,dude. If they got shit on, just say no and turn it off.
I watched a two minute horserace Saturday, and had the baseball game on in the background while I painted a room yesterday. Wasn't even aware of any of the Reagan coverage.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
[QB] I'm not defensive of his actions of president.
I just find mocking his death OFFENSIVE. Regardless of his politics, he carried himself well as a human being, I thought.
It's not like he was a drug-addled self-destructive rock star goon who can't help but ot invite derision and mockery. You know, like Curt Cobain or Layne Staley.
I think those mocking, and I don't think I was mocking….but anyway, if we are, it's probably a reaction to all the bullshit on the telly over the weekend…You'd think he was the mesiah or something. What cracks me up about the media over here is for example, you get the local news at 6pm and the lead story is "Reagan Dead"…then you get all the tributes and posthumous arse licking for an hour…then at 7pm you get the national news and the lead story is "Reagan Dead" NO SHIT! We've just had it shoved down our throats for the past hour!…then of course you get another hour of posthumous arse licking all over again.
BTW, did ANYTHING else happen that was newsworthy over the weekend, because they sure as shit didn't report on anything else?
El Tee
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:18 PM UTC
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I've re-read this thread twice, haven't read any mocking or cheering in regards to his death.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I just find mocking his death OFFENSIVE.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Rhett…all EX-wives are bitches…DUH!
Why so defensive of a President who did NOTHING for minorities, education or aids research while tripling the nations deficit?
What else do you want to name after the fucker for crying out loud? Why not just cut to the chase and rename this town "Reagan DC" and be done with it.
And 93 is a damn good innings if you ask me, I'd be sympathetic if he popped it in his 50's or so…but to live to 93 is pretty eff'n good.
By the way, I absolutely refuse to call National Airport anything but National Airport.
godsshoeshine
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:22 PM UTC
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judging by this thread, clearly the terrorists have won
keithstg
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:23 PM UTC
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Originally posted by poorlulu:
yaaaaaaaay
need to crack open a bottle for that one………
can't be long till maggie kick's it either…………i feel the need to get on a plane and dance on her grave when she does finally croak……………
Well Sugartastic, you must have missed this - the second post.
chaz
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:24 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
Yes Rhett, I would feel the same way about Clinton, I suppoted Reagan when he was President, I supported the first Bush when he was President, I suppoted Clinton when he was President and I support the second Bush now that he's President. Why? Cause they are President and I'm not….Period. If I thought I could do it better, then I'd find a way to run and do it myself, instead I just come here and listen to everyone play internet President's.
Gimmee a break…thank goodness not everyone supports their leaders "just because he's president and I'm not Period".
Rhett Miller
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:24 PM UTC
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yaaaaaaaay
need to crack open a bottle for that one………
can't be long till maggie kick's it either…………i feel the need to get on a plane and dance on her grave when she does finally croak……………
Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:
I've re-read this thread twice, haven't read any mocking or cheering in regards to his death. Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I just find mocking his death OFFENSIVE.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Rhett…all EX-wives are bitches…DUH!
Why so defensive of a President who did NOTHING for minorities, education or aids research while tripling the nations deficit?
What else do you want to name after the fucker for crying out loud? Why not just cut to the chase and rename this town "Reagan DC" and be done with it.
And 93 is a damn good innings if you ask me, I'd be sympathetic if he popped it in his 50's or so…but to live to 93 is pretty eff'n good.
By the way, I absolutely refuse to call National Airport anything but National Airport.
ratioci nation
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:31 PM UTC
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
judging by this thread, clearly the terrorists have won
they hate our liberty and our freedom
Rhett Miller
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:36 PM UTC
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If Clinton or Carter were to die, the "right wing media" would cover their deaths with comparable reverance. It's just the way we do things in this country; put away our partisan bullshit, and honor the dead.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
I shoulda known this board would not be sympathetic to him. Once again, the whole country thinks one way and fifteen morons on this board think another, must be the wanna be rebels in them. It's a sad day when I agree with pretty much everything Rhett says. I have no idea what he did right or wrong cause politics isn't my thing but I'm sure he did a helluva better job then you guys did….Oh wait, you weren't President, he was, and you never will be.
What you mean is the whole right-wing propaganda mainstream media thinks one way and broadcasts it so the sheep-like doodles believe it, and 15 morons on this board thinks another. Listening to Air America this morning, the callers were sympathetic that he'd died, but saying how he wasn't really that good a president…which he wasn't.
If I was president instead of him, I would've taken money from Starwars and put it in aids research…I wouldn't have given those massive tax cuts to the very wealthy while cutting education programs…and I wouldn't have sold arms to Iran, or invaded Grenada.
ratioci nation
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:37 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Bollocks:
Why is that? Or is the Asscrotch spin on it that Al Queada killed Reagan.
because if we are negative, and don't support everything about America fully and happily, then the terrorists have won
you'll have to ask Guiny to be sure
thirsty moore
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:38 PM UTC
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There's nothing like watching Fox 5 News Anchors trying to adlib on Reagan's death.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
And Rhett, we did turn the telly off, it was off the whole weekend, except I put it on to try to watch the news only to be bombarded with Reagan tributes…AND NOTHING ELSE!
Rhett Miller
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Re: Reagan Dead.
June 07, 2004 at 03:39 PM UTC
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I think what Guiny was getting at is that he respects the position of the presidency. As long as someone behaves in a manner so as to honor that position, so do I.
Originally posted by Bollocks:
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
Yes Rhett, I would feel the same way about Clinton, I suppoted Reagan when he was President, I supported the first Bush when he was President, I suppoted Clinton when he was President and I support the second Bush now that he's President. Why? Cause they are President and I'm not….Period. If I thought I could do it better, then I'd find a way to run and do it myself, instead I just come here and listen to everyone play internet President's.
Gimmee a break…thank goodness not everyone supports their leaders "just because he's president and I'm not Period".
All joking aside though, that mentality is an insult to everything America stands for…I mean, seriously. That's more Chinese or N. Korean don't you think?
