It's funny when people try to defend the extra charges. When you buy other merchandise you don't get hit up with extra fees. The business builds it into their price and gives you the bottom line. Buy something at BestBuy.com and they don't tack on a fee for getting it online, you'll get charged shipping (which is legit) if it's mailed, but that's it. You can even go pick it up in the store and not have to pay a "convenience" fee, a handling fee or any of the other creative names the concert industry comes up with.
"convenience fees" on concert tickets
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:Remember the dealer built that dealership to make it more 'convenient' for you to go buy a car, so no bitch'n bout dem convenience charges y'all!!! Oh, and no need to buy the 'undercoating' 'acid rain protection' 'scotchguard' or 'extended warranty'….all car business versions of 'convenience charges'
my wife wants a new car
the money's gotta come from somewhere
Seriously, why is the price of a ticket broken down into service, convenience, one-time somethingorother….just add it all up and call it the price of the ticket. That way this thread won't keep reappearing every other week.
Originally posted by O'Mankie:the more obvious example would be the "destination and delivery charge" of $800 or so
all car business versions of 'convenience charges'
Originally posted by Dave Stoller:Not always. Occassionally I'll check out at some hotel and the bill will have a bogus fixed per diem that wasn't in the rate quote. At one place it was "electricity surcharge". It's the same thing Birchmere does… just a dishonest way to advertise something cheaper than customers can actually get it for. In either case they're just arbitrarily enumerating one of their costs of doing business. At the Birchmere they call it "surcharge for Box Office Staff, Parking, & Security" ($3.50 now per ticket you buy @ box office night of show), but they could just as easily call it "electricity surcharge". Much love to 930 for not pulling that crap
When you buy other merchandise you don't get hit up with extra fees. The business builds it into their price and gives you the bottom line.
Originally posted by Shadrach:good to know about no service charge on the same-day shows. means i can save $1 on my english beat ticket tonight :) will have to do this more often, and just hope the show wont sell out.
Originally posted by toodles2004:I would caution you to do some research before making sweeping statements.
Actually, the 9:30 club does charge them. That's where I was buying the tickets. Tickets.com and Ticketmaster.com are the noted options And if there's some other way to buy the tickets—it isn't remotely evident on the 9:30 Club website.
Which says to me that 9:30 more than capitulates to the effers who've hijacked the process. They support them.
–T
FYI - The 9:30 box office offers all tickets for only a $1.00 service charge. In addition, any tickets sold the night of shows, for that evenings performance, are offered with no service charge at all.
Originally posted by you be betty:thats decidedly inconvenient then isnt it. hence the term "convenience charges"
Originally posted by sonickteam4:yeah; but then the show sells out four people before you in line
Originally posted by toodles2004:there is no convenience fee when you pay at the door, the night of the show.
there appears to be NO WAY to buy the ticket w/out the fee(s).
Originally posted by O'Mankie:
Originally posted by Shadrach:My comparison was in regards to the separate fee's charged by the mechanic. Parts would never cost as much as they charge if you were to purchase the parts yourself. And labor would be free if you installed them on your own. But the fact is most of us are too lazy and or busy to go buy auto parts and then spend a Saturday afternoon thumbing through a do-it-yourself book on how to change brake pads. In most cases we would rather have the "convienience" of having someone else "service" our vehicle.
These rates are no different than "parts and labor" when your car is worked on. .HUH!? Not defending the car business, but when you are charged 'parts and labour' when your car is worked on, it's because some 'parts' were used that had to be purchased and someone who needs to be paid 'laboured' on your car!! A 'convenience' charge is a made up charge to simply get more money out of the punter.
tickets.com is a company that employs real people and has real hardware to maintain, plus like every company in the world, they're trying to earn a profit. So they charge what the market will bear.
Again I point to the fact that for almost all of our shows you can come to the box office in person and save money.
Originally posted by Shadrach:Hopefully you buy your brake pads from Tommy Callaghan Jr.
spend a Saturday afternoon thumbing through a do-it-yourself book on how to change brake pads. [/QB]
Would this argument end if they called them "Screw you" charges instead of "convenience" charges?
Originally posted by Shadrach:so are you saying we should make our own tickets for shows??
But the fact is most of us are too lazy and or busy to go buy auto parts and then spend a Saturday afternoon thumbing through a do-it-yourself book on how to change brake pads. In most cases we would rather have the "convienience" of having someone else "service" our vehicle.
Originally posted by sonickteam4:I make my own. I write the all of the pertenant concert information on a cracker with squeeze cheese then when I go, if the bouncer won't let me in, I eat the "ticket to deliciousness." It's a win-win.
so are you saying we should make our own tickets for shows??
i am not sure why i cant stop laughing at that…..
A couple bucks doesn't bother me… However, $25 fees on Rolling Stones tickets does. Thank got I didn't get them for me and have already been paid back!
Originally posted by sonickteam4:No, I'm saying that if you are that concerned about the additional charges don't come here and complain that they are impossible to avoid when there is clearly an alternative. Come to the box office and purchase your tickets in person.
Originally posted by Shadrach:so are you saying we should make our own tickets for shows??
But the fact is most of us are too lazy and or busy to go buy auto parts and then spend a Saturday afternoon thumbing through a do-it-yourself book on how to change brake pads. In most cases we would rather have the "convienience" of having someone else "service" our vehicle.
Originally posted by Shadrach:But you guys are all so scary with your tattoos, piercings and black clothing at the box office….
Come to the box office and purchase your tickets in person.
Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:LOL…that's some funny shit. That gets my vote for post of the week
I make my own. I write the all of the pertenant concert information on a cracker with squeeze cheese then when I go, if the bouncer won't let me in, I eat the "ticket to deliciousness." It's a win-win.
Oh, and what kind of bouncer refuses a cracker with squeeze cheese??
Originally posted by Shadrach:yes, you are right. sometimes i bitch because Pop tarts are 75 cents more at the corner store than at the Safeway, but then i think, "didnt have to go all the way to Safeway"
I'm saying that if you are that concerned about the additional charges don't come here and complain that they are impossible to avoid when there is clearly an alternative. Come to the box office and purchase your tickets in person.
time is money and money is evil so…..
Originally posted by O'Mankie:
Originally posted by Shadrach:Difference is that the labor charge, doesn't always reflect the time spent on the job. The Click & Clack guys just had an article about this a week ago or so. There is a book that most mechanics use that describes the average amount of labor put into a job. Now if you are a new mechanic, learning the ropes, this is probably a justifiable number. However, if you've been doing it for years and year, it probably won't take you the same amount of time for an oil change than a newbie would. But no matter what, the labor charges are the same throughout. In some cases, they are even more in higher priced neighborhoods because the feeling is that those people can afford it. Yet at the same time, there are mechanics who just charge for the amount of time spent on the job, not what the book says.
These rates are no different than "parts and labor" when your car is worked on. .HUH!? Not defending the car business, but when you are charged 'parts and labour' when your car is worked on, it's because some 'parts' were used that had to be purchased and someone who needs to be paid 'laboured' on your car!! A 'convenience' charge is a made up charge to simply get more money out of the punter.
Overall I can say I don't like charges, but can understand them to a point. A one time charge is fine, but to loop in three to four different charges is ridiculous. I know DAR has some nutty fee with a crazy name that I can't think of right now. But there should be norms to the charges, unlike the Stones reference someone made. In that case, there were different charges on each price level of ticket. The higher priced the ticket, the more the fees. It didn't cost anymore to serve up the higher priced ticket, did it?
Originally posted by sonickteam4:…time is evil??
time is money and money is evil so…..