lwoxley
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Re: "convenience fees" on concert tickets
September 08, 2005 at 05:42 PM UTC
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by O'Mankie:
all car business versions of 'convenience charges'
the more obvious example would be the "destination and delivery charge" of $800 or so
Actually that's the charges to transport your car, be it from the place of manufacture… Japan, Italy, Germany, Detroit, Korea or even England if you happen to buy a MINI, to the dealership. The reason it is not just included in the price of the car is because that charge is non-taxable…so if you buy a new car and they charge sales tax on the destination fee you can just say, "I don't think so pal", but it is a legitimate charge.
The car bus. version of convenience charge, is the beloved 'doc fee' which is just free money for the dealership that they try to bullshit you with some story about it being administration charges to do all the paperwork…..which would be like the supermarket charging you extra for the check-out person running your groceries over the scanning thingie.
Another comparison to convenience fees would be 'points' in the real estate mortgage game. Now that's a classic scam, they don't even try to give it a believable name!!!!
lwoxley
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Re: "convenience fees" on concert tickets
September 08, 2005 at 05:59 PM UTC
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Originally posted by hitman:
Originally posted by O'Mankie:
Originally posted by Shadrach:
These rates are no different than "parts and labor" when your car is worked on. .
Difference is that the labor charge, doesn't always reflect the time spent on the job. The Click & Clack guys just had an article about this a week ago or so. There is a book that most mechanics use that describes the average amount of labor put into a job.
Again, not intending to defend the car business, but it is done to standardise the service done on vehicles….imagine if you paid for the actual hours spent by the mechanic and some pesky nut was rusted on that took 4 hours to loosen? I'm sure you'd be pissed off getting a $500 bill to remove rusted nut before the work you car came in for was even started. Sure the hours in the book err on the side of caution, for example, I remember the time allocated to change a bulb on a Ferrari was 2 hours, which took me, a salesman about 3 minutes on a 360. The service manager explained that on a specific model……Testarosa if I remember correctly, you had to take the fender off to get to the light bulb housing so that's why it was allocated two hours. Any dealer worth dealing with doesn't even charge to change a bulb, but that's what the book says.
I may be explaining it wrong, but it's one of those things I understood at the time, but having difficulty explaining it.
thatguy
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Re: "convenience fees" on concert tickets
September 08, 2005 at 09:36 PM UTC
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
Oh, and what kind of bouncer refuses a cracker with squeeze cheese??
four things:
1. we don't have any bouncers
B. we have a couple of those wacky vegans on staph, so they'd probably say no
III. i like cheese and crackers
d. there are only three things
chaz
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Re: "convenience fees" on concert tickets
September 09, 2005 at 02:06 AM UTC
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Originally posted by you be betty:
Originally posted by sonickteam4:
Originally posted by toodles2004:
there appears to be NO WAY to buy the ticket w/out the fee(s).
there is no convenience fee when you pay at the door, the night of the show.
yeah; but then the show sells out four people before you in line (thanks, ticket brokers) and you are left out in the cold cruel world, smacking the pavement as others strut into the club like kings with their gold-plated chuck taylors and diamond incrusted buddy holly glasses….
seemingly; the only people that can AFFORD the aforementioned ticket charges.
inconcievable!
For a 15 year old you seem to be able to afford more than your fair share of shows.
RatBastard
Joined: January 07, 2003 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: "convenience fees" on concert tickets
September 09, 2005 at 07:45 AM UTC
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Originally posted by thatguy:
Originally posted by amnesiac:
Oh, and what kind of bouncer refuses a cracker with squeeze cheese??
four things:
1. we don't have any bouncers
B. we have a couple of those wacky vegans on staph, so they'd probably say no
III. i like cheese and crackers
d. there are only three things
There are 10 types of people in the world, those who uinderstand binary and those who don't.
kosmo
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Re: "convenience fees" on concert tickets
September 09, 2005 at 03:21 PM UTC
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game ON
elj
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Re: "convenience fees" on concert tickets
September 09, 2005 at 03:22 PM UTC
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Originally posted by thatguy:
1. we don't have any bouncers
You're not the only venue in town.
chaz
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Re: "convenience fees" on concert tickets
September 09, 2005 at 08:04 PM UTC
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
game ON
Off, or 0 or whichever you prefer.