phocus
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:46 PM UTC
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I post on HFStival.com, but not very regularly. I agree that it is messed up for bigyawn to steal information from the hfstival site without giving credit to the author. Also taking items from the "rumors" forum, and posting them as factual.
I also find it messed up that users from HFStival.com are flooding bigyawns users with a flood of e-mail. It isn't necessarily the users fault, and their inboxes shouldn't be flooded.
However the bickering back and forth on the boards is quite comical to me. So I will continue to watch all this unfold.
ggw
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:47 PM UTC
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Could you guys post a picture of Postal Service? He's funny.
it seems as the message boards around the d.c area are locking down to keep us out.
look at what we've done. brian man you should be proud
godsshoeshine
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:48 PM UTC
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hey lawyer members: isn't it illegal to send unsolicited bulk emails, under the CAN-Spam act?
ggw
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:53 PM UTC
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
according to the No Electronic Theft Act, it is illegal to take any information from another website and post it as your own.
Only if the copyrighted material has a value of $1000 or more.
Perhaps you should spend some of those benjamins on a little edumacation….
TheGrimace
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:54 PM UTC
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you know, i've noticed a lot of people on here calling hfstival.com people immature but i don't see you guys acting much more mature, i mean come on, posting pictures of me from 4 years ago is crazy and also illegal, those pictures are my property and i didn't give anyone permission to post them on a 930.com forum, so whoever did is breaking copyright law.
loopzlp
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:54 PM UTC
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I'm a little confused…according to bigyawn, they site interoffice hfs email as their source…
or am i missing something here?
redsock
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:56 PM UTC
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Wow, I get back from a lunch meeting and someone gave the lunatics keys to the asylum.
First off, thanks for the 930 boarders, and bigyawn staffers standing up for us.
Second, and I'll address this to thegrimace, you need to brush up on your copyright law chief, cause there is nothing, in any book, that will tell you message board material is copyright, and even if it was, I can tell you from my actual job, that what I did was called "fair use". I read information from more than one site (you think I'd just use HFestival.com?). I then wrote about what i learned on my website. I didn't quote anyone.
I fully plan on giving a more formal repsonse on my site, and on yours, but I felt this forum offeres an opportunity to talk as adults. If you wanted me to add attirbution language, I prolly would have had you come to me as a normal human being. But since the hordes were unleashed, the chances of that are now zero. At some point in time, the numerous folks who tried valiantly to stand up for the rights of message boards everywhere will grow up, and decide "lick my balls" is not a proper response to an actual problem in their life. That being as it is, I am happy to talk to you, or anyone else from your site capable of forming a coherent thought.
vansmack
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:56 PM UTC
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
Originally posted by vansmack:
[qb] The No Electronic Theft Act does not apply to music and movies, that's why a year later the passed the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
The Entertainment industry was not prepared to let the court decide whether or not Music and Movies were covered by the No Electronic Theft Act, so they pushed the DMCA through congress before the courts could hear it.
Either way, the material obtained in the HFSestival.com message boards are not protected by the NETA, and as a matter of fact I would recommend that you put a disclaimer that information contained in the message board should not be relied upon, for users to use at their own risk nor dies it reflect the opions of HFStival.com in any way shape or form. That would be a much more prudent way to handle information contained in message boards, rather than attacking others for using the information in a manner they see fit. I'm guessing that if you have a bioler plate license agreement that you make users agree to when they sign up to your boards, BigYawn was well within ther rights to use the information as they saw fit.
I would also refrain from promoting Denial of Service Attacks if I were HFStival.com, especially in what could be considered competing businesses (assuming of course that one of the two web sites wants to make any money).
redsock
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 06:57 PM UTC
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thanks santos little helper, or whoever you are, for finding the language to back me up
kosmo
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 07:00 PM UTC
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a couple things…
If I were the bigyawn admin, and I'm not, I'd be saving copies of the thier forum pages. I especially like this tibdit.
" i tried getting back in and it wouldn't even let me in with the admin password"
Sounds like illegal behavior to me..
Secondly if you are so concerned about posting images, why is there a image of the Detroit Red Wings linked from their site being used on the forum? It's too bad Probert still isn't playing.
TheGrimace
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 07:04 PM UTC
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There was no Denail of Service attempted, just several people posting that they were upset by the fact that HFStival.com was not cridited.
ggw
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 07:05 PM UTC
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Originally posted by TheGrimace:
you know, i've noticed a lot of people on here calling hfstival.com people immature but i don't see you guys acting much more mature, i mean come on, posting pictures of me from 4 years ago is crazy and also illegal, those pictures are my property and i didn't give anyone permission to post them on a 930.com forum, so whoever did is breaking copyright law.
I could've posted this pic.
<small>[ 04-08-2004, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: kosmo vinyl ]</small>
TheGrimace
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 07:07 PM UTC
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and i can ask you politly to take the pictures down because they are my property and i have not given you permission to post them to the internet.
elj
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Re: What the #$@% happened to the big yawn board?
April 08, 2004 at 07:10 PM UTC
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Seriously, posting pictures of people on the internet is just rude. Not that I agree with all they did or anything.