elj
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 03:48 PM UTC
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I concur - Bardo Pond was awful, awful, awful. It's a classic example of a band that clearly was a bunch of guys who wanted liked to jam and said one day, "Hey, we need a singer… and if we got a girl, maybe people would come just to look at her." Awful music. Also, she plays flute about as well as I do, and I've never played flute.
Cat's Cradle gave us Superchunk as an opener which was really cool.
walkonby
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 04:08 PM UTC
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j. showed the nine thirty that the show shouldn't have been at nine thirty. (lou even saw a huge rat the last time they played.) nothing like going to see the jesus of guitar in one of the best bands ever at a place overcrowded with people just standing there and chain smoking, too worried about who's next to them or how to easily get back to the bar. j. blistered through songs after another like he himself was responsible for recarving out the histories of rock. some songs seemed way too short by a normal dinosaur standard, though. i agree that a j. mascis, minus dinosaur, show can be a much better musical performance, and if he was just a bit taller . . . i would almost be convinced that j. is the almighty buckethead.
and as for the nine thirty . . . man, their female staff rock!! no offence to the guys, but everytime i go to the club, the men i see that work there, usually have that "i'm working, leave me alone, and get the hell inside" look on their faces, while the women are beautiful, refreshing testaments to how it should be done. they smile and sometimes say, "hey, how are you?", making me feel all warm and toasty and glad i came to the club. first the girl who checked my id for digable planets, and then the girl who said hey to me as i was leaving last night. go, go nine thirty girls! you f-ing rock!
and about that pause before dinosaur came on, with the lights going down, and then nothing for atleast five minutes, digable planets did the same thing, last week. weird.
distance
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 04:36 PM UTC
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Originally posted by walkonby:
(lou even saw a huge rat the last time they played.)
haha. i thought he said "rack".
snailhook
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 04:46 PM UTC
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I concur - Bardo Pond was awful, awful, awful. It's a classic example of a band that clearly was a bunch of guys who wanted liked to jam and said one day, "Hey, we need a singer… and if we got a girl, maybe people would come just to look at her." Awful music. Also, she plays flute about as well as I do, and I've never played flute.
actually, you couldn't be more wrong and ignorant of bardo pond. image and lack of ability have NOTHING to do whatsoever with that band. you should argue that point to gerard cosloy and chris lombardi of matador who signed them in 1996 and released four of their records and are still huge supporters. or perhaps you should argue your points with sonic youth, mogwai, dinosaur jr, and godspeed you black emperor, all of whom personally asked them to open for them. but since you can play flute as well as isobel, i'll let you off the hook since you're clearly affecting me with your epic psychedelia.
another classic example of a music "fan" who confuses his opinion with gospel as narrow-minded preconception. if you don't like it fine; textured, drony, sludgy psychedelia isn't for everybody. but dismissing them as hacks who decided to pick up instruments last week just to form a "cool" band just shows that you need to do your homework a little more. you have no idea how well-respected bardo pond has been since they've been doing this music since 1992.
i dislike a lot of music, especially a lot of the crap people lose their shit over on this board, but i would never say something so stupid as "they clearly decided to form a band so they can jam and get some hot chick to sing so people can look at her." that just makes you sound like an out-of-touch fifty year old grump. sorry.
by the way, i thought last night was far superior to norfolk. every band sounded more inspired, the sound was better, and the vibe at the club seemed a bit more electric to me.
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 04:48 PM UTC
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this is going to be a really strange lineup in central park:
Dinosaur Jr.
Broken Social Scene
Radio 4
Magik Markers
is magik markers worth sitting through radio 4? i'm very inclined to show up after that crap goes off …
sonickteam2
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 04:51 PM UTC
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simmer down pal. (not that you were necessarily talking to me, though i assume you kind of were)
i like a lot of psych music. and am usually a fan of that stuff. they are/were quite boring live, and that girl needs to go.
the rest of em may just be able to form a real band.
and dont get all wet over peoples opinions. and dont be afraid to state your own either!
distance
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 04:53 PM UTC
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Originally posted by snailhook:
by the way, i thought last night was far superior to norfolk. every band sounded more inspired, the sound was better, and the vibe at the club seemed a bit more electric to me.
the sound is always better @ 930 than at the norva. i've seen several bands at both. the drunk redneck ratio is always higher at the norva too.
re: bardo pond. i absolutely hated them the first time i saw them. the second time i saw them i completely changed my mind. i wasn't really all taht into the two sets this year, though.
elj
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 04:54 PM UTC
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Originally posted by snailhook:
actually, you couldn't be more wrong and ignorant of bardo pond. image and lack of ability have NOTHING to do whatsoever with that band. you should argue that point to gerard cosloy and chris lombardi of matador who signed them in 1996 and released four of their records and are still huge supporters. or perhaps you should argue your points with sonic youth, mogwai, dinosaur jr, and godspeed you black emperor, all of whom personally asked them to open for them. but since you can play flute as well as isobel, i'll let you off the hook since you're clearly affecting me with your epic psychedelia.
another classic example of a music "fan" who confuses his opinion with gospel as narrow-minded preconception. if you don't like it fine; textured, drony, sludgy psychedelia isn't for everybody. but dismissing them as hacks who decided to pick up instruments last week just to form a "cool" band just shows that you need to do your homework a little more. you have no idea how well-respected bardo pond has been since they've been doing this music since 1992.
i dislike a lot of music, especially a lot of the crap people lose their shit over on this board, but i would never say something so stupid as "they clearly decided to form a band so they can jam and get some hot chick to sing to people can look at her." that just makes you sound like an out-of-touch fifty your old grump. sorry.
I must have missed the part where I "confuse[d] [my] opinion with gospel as narrow-minded preconception." I don't recall going, "they were horrid, and anyone who disagrees is a fool" or anything of that nature. They sucked, in my opinion, and the girl was the worst part of the band. Her singing was awful, her instrumentation sounded like a 6th grader, and everyone who came with me literally had a headache after their set.
You're more then welcome to like them, whatever, doesn't bother me. But the fact they've been around since 1992 and were on matador records (both of which facts I knew before you posted) doesn't make them great or even good, and the fact that you'd even feel the need to bring it up only shows how ridiculous your retort is. As infantile as "they suck… no they don't… yes they do" may seem, it makes alot more sense then "they suck… they've been around since 1992" does.
sonickteam2
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 05:03 PM UTC
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I wanted to scream "Play Aqualung" when she had that flute.
and heres a bit of advice: dont jump around and try to play the violin, it not only sounds bad, it makkes you look like a fool.
tobyd
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 05:18 PM UTC
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I was annoyed by the crass dissing of Bardo Pond too. Those guys definitely are in it for the music and I know they've been blowing minds for years. I love the fact that they are taking risks and improvising heavily. For that reason, they lose a lot of people. It pays to LISTEN close to bands like that. I hope to see them again soon. Maybe at the Warehouse???
Cheers,
Toby
elj
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 05:23 PM UTC
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Originally posted by sonickteam4:
I wanted to scream "Play Aqualung" when she had that flute.
Some people at the NorVa show were merciless. "Get off the stage" and "rubbish" were heard several times. I don't have the heart to yell at bands (unless it's in jest) though, so I felt bad even though I shared the sentiments.
chaz
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 05:31 PM UTC
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Originally posted by snailhook:
but since you can play flute as well as isobel, i'll let you off the hook since you're clearly affecting me with your epic psychedelia.
Classic
anarchist
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 05:34 PM UTC
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left bardo pond guitarist broke the same string on 2 guitars. he also had a hard time putting/keeping his guitar strap on. this kept the other members of the band waiting between songs. how loud was dino jr? where i was between the show and first encore when jm's guitar was left in feedback, everyone near me had their fingers in their ears. it was so loud that no one clapped for the encore.
the male bouncer with almost full arm tats and a beard made people put out their cigarettes as soon as they lit them during dino jr's set. much appreciated.
skeeter
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 06:02 PM UTC
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Originally posted by anarchist:
how loud was dino jr? where i was between the show and first encore when jm's guitar was left in feedback, everyone near me had their fingers in their ears. it was so loud that no one clapped for the encore.
This is the only negative thing I have to say about the whole evening. Bringing J's guitar back on stage for the sole purpose of having a roadie blast insanely loud feedback for 3-4 minutes was ridiculous. People who were already wearing earplugs were holding their hands over their ears. People were leaving because the feedback was just painful to sit through. You're loud. We get it. Enough already.
Other than that feedback stunt, I thought the show was fantastic. The band sounded great. The crowd in my area was pretty cool and having a good time. Definitely a fun night.
Captain Jack
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 07:21 PM UTC
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I caught the last 10 minutes of Bardo Pond after some sweet bacon chili dogs at Five Guys on Georgia avenue. What I saw was a sweet psych-y, pretty drone, kinda reminded me of Growing with some mild MBV, I liked it more than the mp3s I heard.
What was the deal with the lights out so the crowd could listen to a whole Dead Meadow song for Dinosaur played?
Tight set from Dinosaur though. I had thought the J. would have had an even bigger guitar set up; I thought he had at least 8 cabs but counted 4, not that it wasn't loud enough though. I thought Eyehategod was going to be the loudest show of the summer, but J. has now claimed that spot.
There was a dude with a digital camera taping right in front of J. the whole time, if anyone has contact info, I'd be all over that video. Going to checking freesofree.net for boots if any are up soon.
shoot ur shot
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 07:35 PM UTC
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where did you see eyehategod? i saw em in richmond and didnt really think they were all thatt loud actually, even for alley katz standards. lightning bolt at the nanci on the other hand….
LRHippo
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 12, 2005 at 08:29 PM UTC
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Capt'n….the video was for an official DVD release of this reunion tour. You won't find any footage anywhere until it's released.
ggw
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Re: Dinosaur Jr
July 13, 2005 at 05:29 AM UTC
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Originally posted by Captain Jack:
There was a dude with a digital camera taping right in front of J. the whole time, if anyone has contact info, I'd be all over that video. Going to checking freesofree.net for boots if any are up soon.
You can download (torrent) the audio
here.