bags
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:49 PM UTC
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Originally posted by distance:
if they're just in it to make as much as they can as fast as they can, that's fine. but they won't be getting any more of my money and i think they've probably pissed more people off than i think they thought they were going to… but that doesn't mean that the shows won't sell out.
If they lose your business, but they can still sell out the venue, then your loss is of no concern, business-wise. Your ticket is no different from anyone else who buys one to them.
That seems harsh and simplistic, but thinking this is all an altruistic, for-the-music-and-the-people business is WAY simplistic.
BookerT
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:50 PM UTC
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i think we all remember the clearchannel band cost list that circulates every spring..
i was just thinking about this … i know it was posted here a while back, can someone post it again? sorry to take us off topic. wait, no i'm not.
kosmo
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:52 PM UTC
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the only way ticket being sold via eBay will end is if people just stopped buying them that way. of course that will never happen because people start panicing and feeling like they are missing out on something. witness the person who bought SOAD tickets for a mint via eBay when all they had to do was check in here.
bags
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:52 PM UTC
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Originally posted by distance:
there just comes a point where a person that seems to be as 'for the little guy' (3rd world countries) as chris martin wants people to think that would be like "no. our shows don't need to cost that much money." doesn't that seem a bit reasonable?
But how do you know what he does with his money? Maybe he's feeding 27 villages with some of his proceeds – and maybe he'd rather decide where that money goes rather than leaving it up to you or the government….
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:52 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Bags:
And to Hoya – this "category of fans" thing makes no sense. Point is, they have a LOT of fans. Doesn't matter a toss if they're cool indie hipsters or Hootie-loving soccer moms. Both groups are willing to pay to see this show.
no, it DOES make sense … it explains why they can charge $60+ per ticket and it really isn't a huge logical leap
as one of the biggest rock bands in the US, they have a lot of casual fans who don't often go to concerts and have no qualms spending $60+ when they go to their one concert of the season or even of the year
of course their fan demographics don't really matter, but they easily explain the ticket prices.
GabrielG54
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:52 PM UTC
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and to think, all i wanted was to know if my seats were any good.
vansmack
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:54 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
No, I'm not sarcastic….And how would third world nations be helped by Coldplay lowering ticket prices?
Holy shit, you're serious!! OK, there are 5 guys in the band, one of which is rather outspoken the other 4 I can't even name, they likely split profits so they doubled the tickets prices so that one of them can share his wealth with third world nations!?!?!?!?! That's more assinine than arguing that they raised prices to curb scalping!
If they were serious about helping third world nations by raising ticket prices, why not announce that $35 from every ticket goes to Make Trade Fair? Because that's not the case now is it?
elj
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:54 PM UTC
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Originally posted by sonickteam4:
arent your from Richmond? they fought a cold war?
Richmond, no, they're still trying to fight the Civil War, but America as a whole, yes.
ggw
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:55 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Bags:
If they lose your business, but they can still sell out the venue, then your loss is of no concern, business-wise.
Exactly.
We can all now agree that Coldplayâ?¢ is a business enterprise that endeavors to maximize and monopolize profits, not an artistic one that seeks to reach kids that may be moved by their music.
kosmo
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:55 PM UTC
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Originally posted by GabrielG54:
and to think, all i wanted was to know if my seats were any good.
Not as "good" as orginially thought :D
LenardYorkton
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While I bought GA Pit ticks for Coldplay, what wasn't available in the presale was several reserved rows at the front. Why? Because Coldplay is doing a VIP deal where if you pay $175 for a tick, you're guaranteed a seat within the first 20 rows, private entrance, premium parking, limited edition merch and some other sh*t. These tickets are on sale for all of their shows on this tour right now. Coldplay's management is scalping their own tickets essentially.
elj
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:55 PM UTC
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Holy shit, you're serious!! OK, there are 5 guys in the band, one of which is rather outspoken the other 4 I can't even name, they likely split profits so they doubled the tickets prices so that one of them can share his wealth with third world nations!?!?!?!?! That's more assinine than arguing that they raised prices to curb scalping!
You're misquoting me and badly.
I'm not saying 3rd world nations are helped by raising ticket prices, I just don't see how they're hurt by it. In fact, my point is, I don't see what they have to do with this debate at all, and I was questioning why they got brought up by Distance.
kosmo
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:56 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Bags:
If they lose your business, but they can still sell out the venue, then your loss is of no concern, business-wise.
Exactly.
We can all now agree that Coldplayâ?¢ is a business enterprise that endeavors to maximize and monopolize profits, not an artistic one that seeks to reach kids that may be moved by their music.
the elistist prick from greenbelt concurs. can i get a second to close the debate?
bags
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:56 PM UTC
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
if a band wants to set their ticket prices at $70 a pop thats fine with me. but to justify that price because of what brokers might charge is flawed logic. charging fans more money because some might be lost to ticket brokers is silly, that not market driven it's greedy.
But it was someone here who said that the broker prices were setting the Coldplay price…the band or its management didn't say that, did they?
And I posit that the scalped price for these $70 is way over $70.
vansmack
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:59 PM UTC
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
the elistist prick from greenbelt concurs. can i get a second to close the debate?
Here here, I'll make this a bi-partisan concurrence.
distance
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:59 PM UTC
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Originally posted by vansmack:
If they were serious about helping third world nations by raising ticket prices, why not announce that $35 from every ticket goes to Make Trade Fair? Because that's not the case now is it?
if this were the stated case, then i might just consider $70 to see coldplay as it would be $35 (which i think is reasonable – i was actually up for spending up to $50ish for this tour) for the band and $35 going to charity.
kosmo
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 06:59 PM UTC
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dicussion closed… kindly go on any "news" cable channel for further debate
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Coldplay Presale Purchase Question
May 26, 2005 at 07:00 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Originally posted by Bags:
If they lose your business, but they can still sell out the venue, then your loss is of no concern, business-wise.
Exactly.
We can all now agree that Coldplayâ?¢ is a business enterprise that endeavors to maximize and monopolize profits, not an artistic one that seeks to reach kids that may be moved by their music.
despite the hilariously ironic article i posted earlier, when was this ever in question?
this isn't the same band that came over here a few years ago and wowed rock nerds and anglophiles … these guys are corporate and are acting just like every other corporate group does … and it's not like they're being outrageous or anything, their prices are well in-line with other corporate bands