bags
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:13 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Metal Meltdown:
You all need to quit bitching..
930 is one of the best small venues in the country and frankly the tickets are reasonably priced in my opinion. Sure there are occasionally 35.00-40.00 dollar shows. However, those are usually acts that you would almost never get to see this close and intimate as the 930 is and thus thats why the ticket price is more. I have seen so many great acts at 930 through the years and its always been a relatively safe enviroment with the best sound Ive heard in the area. The same acts you see come through 930 play similar venues in other cities, and I can tell, most of these venues are dumps with crappy sound, bad security, and they treat the bands like crap a lot of times.
That being said, ticket fees and handling charges are outrageous. Seth has no control over that however, he has to do business with one of the corporate evils to get tickets conveniently distributed. That is just the way it is. 930 makes little to no money off the artist Im guessing and everything off beer, food, and parking, its a business remember. I think the prices are very fair for the caliber of artists we get to see in such a great setting.
Just my two cents…
I couldn't agree more (I haven't gotten all the way through the thread, but since Seth is reading it, I want to second the plus side). In fact, I'm amazed at how many shows are $10 - 15 bucks. Lots. When a Dave Gahan comes through for $40 (I might spend $5 to see him, but that's about it), you just know that's the artist setting that price. And Blur is a band that has absolutely ravenous fans. And y'all didn't even think they'd come through.
There's a reason it's usually the retro acts coming through that cost upwards of $25. In their own minds, they have an audience already, and they're worth it.
I'm spoiled, I admit – I live in DC so I *always* buy my tickets at the box office; I never pay ticketbastard charges (except for shows like the White Stripes at yucky venues I have to put up with). The charges suck ass, but it has nothing to do with the club (imagine how infuriating it is to pay $5 in service charges on a $10 ticket – if *only* the 9:30 club got some of that!).
My two cents…
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:17 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I tend to think most of the areas elitists are people within the DC City limits anyway.
ever been to the Mercedes garage in Bethesda or Porsche in arlington….
last year, near where I work, on the edge of Bethesda were "affordable starter homes from the mid 400s"
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:19 PM UTC
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Originally posted by bags:
There's a reason it's usually the retro acts coming through that cost upwards of $25. In their own minds, they have an audience already, and they're worth it.
My two cents…
I thought the retro acts charged that much because they were trying to make money from touring…. They are no longer selling or even making new material in a lot of cases (Pistols are an example)
ggw
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:20 PM UTC
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Leather armchairs. It should have big leather armchairs and big green-glass ashtrays so I can suck down a couple of Romeo y Julieta Churchills while I'm rocking out.
And waitresses – scantily clad waitresses. Maybe in little French Maid outfits.
Rhett Miller
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:20 PM UTC
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I didn't mean that the richest people live in DC, I meant that the snobbiest people live in DC. The type of people who look down on suburbanites and think of them only as culturally illiterate breeders. The type of people who think that living in a city somehow makes them superior to others. Often they are people who DON'T have money.
Originally posted by Andrew WK:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I tend to think most of the areas elitists are people within the DC City limits anyway.
ever been to the Mercedes garage in Bethesda or Porsche in arlington….
last year, near where I work, on the edge of Bethesda were "affordable starter homes from the mid 400s"
Lamb007
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:24 PM UTC
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Oh…Leather Rocking Chairs. "Rockers for Former Rawkers."
And how about a TV monitor that's captioned. That would be especially helpful during Shane McGowan, The Vines, and other shows featuring marble-mouthed singers.
ggw
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:26 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I didn't mean that the richest people live in DC, I meant that the snobbiest people live in DC. The type of people who look down on suburbanites and think of them only as culturally illiterate breeders. The type of people who think that living in a city somehow makes them superior to others. Often they are people who DON'T have money.
Sounds kind of like you…..
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:27 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I didn't mean that the richest people live in DC, I meant that the snobbiest people live in DC. The type of people who look down on suburbanites and think of them only as culturally illiterate breeders. The type of people who think that living in a city somehow makes them superior to others. Often they are people who DON'T have money.
I have never noticed that. America is a plutocracy. The richer the people the more likely to be a complete fucker. I have spotted no difference either side of the MD/DC line. If anything the MDers look down on DCs poorer neighbours and their higher crime rate and crappier schools.
Joymonster
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:32 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggw:
And waitresses – scantily clad waitresses. Maybe in little French Maid outfits.
That's the best thing that has been said on this thread.
bags
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:32 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
Also, one of the problems with pre-release internet sales is that not everyone has access to the internet at 10AM in the morning. There are lots and lots of jobs that would not allow someone that luxury. And then you have the 'traffic' problems. It's a great idea but not perfect. Sure beats camping out at some ticket box which is something I won't do. Also, not all of us live or work close enough to the club to make it worth making a trek over. But then, that's what ticket agencies are for.
The White Stripes pre-sale was an annoying and insipid exercise. In my opinion, it was a way to ensure you had to pay ticketmaster surcharges. There were three passwords, and everyone I know got a ticket that way. If you have access to online purchases.
By the by, no slight on 9:30 for sending out a password. If it's going on, you may as well tell us about it. It's just so inane.
thirsty moore
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:36 PM UTC
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Yes – all that is nice – but it needs something more. Something that seperates the 930 from the rest of the pack.
And that is where HAND SANITIZING LOTION comes in. Sure, the 930 has promotional matchbooks, but what bar doesn't?
Originally posted by ggw:
Leather armchairs. It should have big leather armchairs and big green-glass ashtrays so I can suck down a couple of Romeo y Julieta Churchills while I'm rocking out.
And waitresses – scantily clad waitresses. Maybe in little French Maid outfits.
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:37 PM UTC
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Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by Andrew WK:
last year, near where I work, on the edge of Bethesda were "affordable starter homes from the mid 400s"
That would get you a nice starter condo in NW DC.
Not all of DC is the NW I am sure you can buy a house in DC for less, just not somewhere very nice to live.
condos are starting around $150 to $200 these days…..
Oh and the Bethesda houses were terraced and just like a two storey condo.
Seth Hurwitz
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:40 PM UTC
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Originally posted by kosmo:
9:30 fan club
I like that. very succinct.
yes, that would be the goal - to reward our regular patrons without it turning into any kind of elitism.
suggestions?
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:40 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by Andrew WK:
…America is a plutocracy…
<img src="http://www.gaffney-sc.com/images/pluto2.jpg" alt=" - " />
errrr
3 entries found for plutocracy.
plu·toc·ra·cy   ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pl-tkr-s)
n. pl. plu·toc·ra·cies
1. Government by the wealthy.
2. A wealthy class that controls a government.
3. A government or state in which the wealthy rule
sound familiar Minnie <img src="
http://iquebec.ifrance.com/tresors-catherine/minnie-mouse-heart.jpg" alt=" - " />
bags
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:42 PM UTC
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Originally posted by kosmo:
can i be your friend?
don't think the VIP area would really be hit with many of the regulars here, seeing as most of them like to hang out in front of the stage. and isn't that what the backbar is for anyway.
my thoughts on the subscription plan is that i wouldn't want to commit to certain number of show a year. i would however be willing to pony up a membership fee for the privledge of being able to buy presale tickets direct from the club throughout the year without having to pay the tickets.com fees. obviously the number of tickets available this way would have to be limited, but then again not everyone in the 9:30 fan club would be getting tickets to every show. rules would have to be in place to prevent ticket brokers from taking advantage. it would be nice if older members would have priority in requests for tickets over newcomers. then again all of this sounds like similar clear channel tatics. but it could save fanclub members time and money.
Actually, a few times I've gotten quite close to calling the club and asking, heyl what can I pay for access to the VIP area in front of the upstairs bar? I think it's a great idea. While I love love love to see bands at 9:30, I'm not going down front anymore. I'd love to have a great view from upstairs, close to a bar and with room to dance! I've never wanted to mention it because I assume then everyone will want to do it. But hey, it's not like I have access now!
As for the subscription, someone already made an excellent point. Someone willing to pay for something like that is already going to go to every show he/she wants to see. Obviously, money isn't an issue. I could afford a subscription, but wouldn't bother because I always see what I want to see anyway. Don't think I've ever not gotten tickets to a show (graned, I'm not seeing Michele Branch….)
