markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:43 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
Originally posted by kosmo:
9:30 fan club
I like that. very succinct.
yes, that would be the goal - to reward our regular patrons without it turning into any kind of elitism.
suggestions?
free passes to non sold out shows for people who go to more than 24 930 club shows a year.
Get people to non sold out shows and if they get in for free will probably buy a few beers to a show they probably would not have otherwise gone to.
mankie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:48 PM UTC
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"3 entries found for plutocracy.
plu·toc·ra·cy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pl-tkr-s)
n. pl. plu·toc·ra·cies
1. Government by the wealthy.
2. A wealthy class that controls a government.
3. A government or state in which the wealthy rule
sound familiar Minnie"
That's exactly what America is.
Oh uh! Mankie and Mark…Sorry, Andrew, have agreed with each other twice in the same day! :eek:
ggw
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:53 PM UTC
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Yes, we should be ruled by the poor. They're not bright or resourceful enough to get a decent job, but let's put them in charge of leading the country.
ggw
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:55 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
Originally posted by kosmo:
9:30 fan club
I like that. very succinct.
yes, that would be the goal - to reward our regular patrons without it turning into any kind of elitism.
suggestions?
Free tickets for Forum Members with 3,000 posts or more.
ggw
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:58 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by ggw:
Yes, we should be ruled by the poor. They're not bright or resourceful enough to get a decent job, but let's put them in charge of leading the country.
GGW makes a bit of a point with this snide comment, though, don't y'all think?
There's a little bit of elitism in all of us….
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:59 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggw:
Yes, we should be ruled by the poor. They're not bright or resourceful enough to get a decent job, but let's put them in charge of leading the country.
Wealth does not make you intelligent. It does however buy you the publicity that it takes to win an election. (how much did the current NY mayor spend on his campaign)
Personally I would like to live in a meritocracy.
mankie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 03:59 PM UTC
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Hey, I never said the "plutocracy" was a bad thing, but with all the soft money and special interest money it is definately a government controlled by the wealthy.
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 04:01 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Celeste:
Originally posted by ggw:
Yes, we should be ruled by the poor. They're not bright or resourceful enough to get a decent job, but let's put them in charge of leading the country.
GGW makes a bit of a point with this snide comment, though, don't y'all think?
No, not all. How easily smoke screened you are.
Just because you are poor does not stop you being intelligent or having good ideas. Celeste, what kind of a fucker are you?
Lamb007
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 04:03 PM UTC
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My suggestion:
Simply do away with the VIP section in its current incarnation (i.e. A&R losers who chat on their cells through the whole show) and make access available on a per show basis, sold the same way you do access to the parking lot. First Come First Served.
Or offer an annual subscription package that provides access but does not include tickets.
The current "VIP area" in front of the balcony bar is a primo location that is currently squandered on people who don't care diddly poo about what's happening on stage.
I don't know how to properly institute a "reward" system because some people (like me) will pay to see acts I have only a casual interest in while some other loyal patrons have to pick and choose when they come.
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 04:03 PM UTC
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mer·i·toc·ra·cy   ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mr-tkr-s)
n. pl. mer·i·toc·ra·cies
1. A system in which advancement is based on individual ability or achievement.
2.
a. A group of leaders or officeholders selected on the basis of individual ability or achievement.
b. Leadership by such a group.
meritocracy
n 1: a form of social system in which power goes to those with superior intellects 2: the belief that rulers should be chosen for their superior abilities and not because of their wealth or birth
markie
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 04:06 PM UTC
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Uh oh……
not spit, I bet it will have (tobacco) 'baccie in it too…… ick.
da'niceguys
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 04:10 PM UTC
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i like the idea of a VIP membership to access tickets early as well as some other special features, but having been a former ticket agent i know that every ticket broker would also take advantage of this. Even if it was only to buy four or five premium shows a year it would still be worth it for them to sign up.
this quote…
"but I find the whole "VIP" concept offensive. I want the 930 to be "equal access entertainment""
…blew me away
this is a club owner looking out for the everyday guy. I had to give some props for that.
Really as much as some of the new ideas intrique me and i am a fan of change, for the sake of good. The thing that makes 930 the best is that, it is first come first serve, best live music venue in North America. I think they might have even have gotten an award for that before.
So don't change
vansmack
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 04:15 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Lamb007:
Simply do away with the VIP section in its current incarnation (i.e. A&R losers who chat on their cells through the whole show) and make access available on a per show basis, sold the same way you do access to the parking lot. First Come First Served.
The current "VIP area" in front of the balcony bar is a primo location that is currently squandered on people who don't care diddly poo about what's happening on stage.
Sorry man, but that's the business. If Seth takes care of them, they'll take care of him when the next big "thing" is in town. But it is a good model to work with.
Seth's point about a 9:30 Fan Club sort of begs the question and I appreciate him thinking of taking care of us nonetheless: We all love the club, we are constant visitors and he
still wants to take care of us (as opposed to most club owners who would rather try to figure out how to bring in more people to the club).
Just him thinking about us makes me think that there is more to this club than just seeing live bands. Perhaps a model like the upstairs bar for regulars is something to consider, but he surely isn't going to alienate his record execs. Is there room for two sections up there? The VIP for the Vines (off to the side) wasn't a bad gig either - although letting the radio stations grant access does nothing for us regulars. Interesting dillema.
ggw
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Re: is doing this for a living worth your $25?
June 17, 2003 at 04:16 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
mer·i·toc·ra·cy   ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mr-tkr-s)
n. pl. mer·i·toc·ra·cies
1. A system in which advancement is based on individual ability or achievement.
2.
a. A group of leaders or officeholders selected on the basis of individual ability or achievement.
b. Leadership by such a group.
meritocracy
n 1: a form of social system in which power goes to those with superior intellects 2: the belief that rulers should be chosen for their superior abilities and not because of their wealth or birth
Like it or not, wealth is a pretty good indicator of superior intellect, ability and achievement. Not perfect, but pretty good.
The current mayor of New York made his billions by seeing a need for an advanced fixed income analytics system, designing and building that system and gradually transforming it into an advanced analytical system for all financial instruments.
Read his biography. He gained his wealth by being the first guy in the office each morning, working harder than the other guys, and by being resourceful. More power to him.