Okay Kids, Start Deleting!

They've done that as well. And that just creates a challenge for some computer whiz kid to overcome…

Originally posted by mankie:
Your point is well taken..BUT! There must be a way for the Bill Gates of the world to figure out how you can download music but as soon as it's been played it's erased and cannot be burned onto a cd.

Another point that is not mentioned here is that many of the files that are traded are NOT available for purchase. Not in record stores, new or used, not on ebay, not through the record companies nor even the artists. How can sharing this sort of file be hurting sales or the artists? When it comes down to it, it is a way of keeping an artist and a culture alive. Some of it is out of print while some was never even in print. Also, though most are music files, not all files that are shared are music files. This will impact more than just those who are not willing to actually buy an available CD or record.

Originally posted by Yank:


I don't think it's much different from when you and I were kids and borrowing a mates album and making a cassette copy of it, or taping songs from the radio.

At least the artist sold one album to be taped from…Actually I never really did that either because my cassette recorder was shite and my older sister would never let me borrow hers, the cow! I liked to have the actual record anyway so had a newspaper round to buy them..and my footie tickets of course.

well, tower is going under anyway. and i got an amoeba magnet on my fridge!

Originally posted by Jaguär:
Another point that is not mentioned here is that many of the files that are traded are NOT available for purchase. Not in record stores, new or used, not on ebay, not through the record companies nor even the artists. How can sharing this sort of file be hurting sales or the artists? When it comes down to it, it is a way of keeping an artist and a culture alive. Some of it is out of print while some was never even in print. Also, though most are music files, not all files that are shared are music files. This will impact more than just those who are not willing to actually buy an available CD or record.

The RIAAA still views that as a copyright infringement (those are essentiall bootlegs and those have always been illegal to both record and trade).

Do they have Virgin Records anywhere in the states? They always had a great selection. HMV wasn't too bad either….wasn't there a HMV in G'towne one time?

By the way, for you college pukes…is it "an HMV" because the letter H is pronounced with a vowel, or is it "a HMV" because the letter H is not a vowel?

Well, there's one college puke that's a lawyer and keeps adding an extra A at the end of RIAA. So, even we can't spell things correctly…

I've always seen "an" used before "h. Oh, and it's spelled Georgetown you pommie

This might be a first, I'm not editing my post…

I just realized.. you don't buy "an" house. You buy "a" house. So my rule is flawed. I guess if it's a soft "h" you would use "an".

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by Jaguär:
Another point that is not mentioned here is that many of the files that are traded are NOT available for purchase. Not in record stores, new or used, not on ebay, not through the record companies nor even the artists. How can sharing this sort of file be hurting sales or the artists? When it comes down to it, it is a way of keeping an artist and a culture alive. Some of it is out of print while some was never even in print. Also, though most are music files, not all files that are shared are music files. This will impact more than just those who are not willing to actually buy an available CD or record.

The RIAAA still views that as a copyright infringement (those are essentiall bootlegs and those have always been illegal to both record and trade).

And not all files that are not blatant burns are bootlegs.

For instance, what about the artist who willing makes his or her music available to the downloading public and even encourages it? Some of them use this method of free advertising. They can't afford the advertising agents and such and it gets their work out and possibly establishing a fan base. Lord knows the Clear Craps and the like won't do shit to promote them!

I know the bean counters and the lawyers all want their cake but too often those are the very people who kill a culture. Look at all the Beatle documentation that would be lost if those such as the RIAA had their way with every tiny thing.

Originally posted by thirsty moore:
This might be a first, I'm not editing my post…

I just realized.. you don't buy "an" house. You buy "a" house. So my rule is flawed. I guess if it's a soft "h" you would use "an".

Ah zank-yoo glass hopper…yoo so wize!

(I'm not grabbing your pebbles though)

Originally posted by Jaguär:
And not all files that are not blatant burns are bootlegs.

For instance, what about the artist who willing makes his or her music available to the downloading public and even encourages it? Some of them use this method of free advertising. They can't afford the advertising agents and such and it gets their work out and possibly establishing a fan base. Lord knows the Clear Craps and the like won't do shit to promote them!

I know the bean counters and the lawyers all want their cake but too often those are the very people who kill a culture. Look at all the Beatle documentation that would be lost if those such as the RIAA had their way with every tiny thing.

I'm not saying they're right, but their arguments have been convincing to the courts.

But lets not kid ourselves - the VAST majority of files traded are not those that the artists have made available for free download.

Originally posted by mankie:
[QB] Do they have Virgin Records anywhere in the states? They always had a great selection.

i know there is one in san francisco. i would imagine that there would be one in la, new york and maybe chicago.

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:

Originally posted by mankie:
[QB] Do they have Virgin Records anywhere in the states? They always had a great selection.

new york

Broadway and 45th. Just got a free British Sampler CD this weekend.

Originally posted by mankie:
Do they have Virgin Records anywhere in the states?

Here's a list:

ARIZONA
Phoenix

CALIFORNIA
Anaheim (howaboutthat?)
Burbank
Costa Mesa
Los Angeles
Ontario
Sacramento
San Francisco

COLORADO
Denver

FLORIDA
Miami
Orlando

ILLINOIS
Chicago

LOUISIANA
New Orleans

MASSACHUSETTS
Boston

NEVADA
Las Vegas

NEW YORK
Long Island
Times Square
Union Square

OHIO
Columbus

TEXAS
Grapevine Mills
Mockingbird Station

UTAH
Salt Lake City

Virgin Megastore locations in the North America.

Okay Smackie, see what a Sony Vaio can do! :D

Originally posted by thirsty moore:
This might be a first, I'm not editing my post…

I just realized.. you don't buy "an" house. You buy "a" house. So my rule is flawed. I guess if it's a soft "h" you would use "an".

But you'd say "flipping burgers is an honest living." Yeah, this H thing makes no sense at all. I would've said go with "an"

By the by, re: downloading. I don't do it because I have a dial up at home, plus it's a non-Kazaa accessible Mac. But I have downloaded a few songs at work – acoustic versions or covers not available anywhere else, but some overly devoted techie converted to an MP3. Awesome.

I still buy lots of music, even with my fancy CD burner and iTunes. And I always will buy music, but it's the CD prices that are the problem. It's out of bounds for CDs to be more than $10 or $11. Thank god for DCCD, but sometimes I do want the new Buzzcocks album when it comes out….

Originally posted by bags:
But you'd say "flipping burgers is an honest living." Yeah, this H thing makes no sense at all. I would've said go with "an"

It would drive you nuts to work for me. It's the sound that counts, not the letter.

Use the article, "a" before words that start with a consonant sound. Use the article, "an" before words that start with a vowel sound. And before you jump down my throat with exceptions, there's an exception to every rule in grammar - I am well aware that this rule is not steadfast.

However, if someone wants to take some time to explain when you use "the" (pronounced thu) and "the" (pronounced "thee") in speach, I'm willing to listen.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by bags:
But you'd say "flipping burgers is an honest living." Yeah, this H thing makes no sense at all. I would've said go with "an"

It would drive you nuts to work for me. It's the sound that counts, not the letter.

Use the article, "a" before words that start with a consonant sound. Use the article, "an" before words that start with a vowel sound. And before you jump down my throat with exceptions, there's an exception to every rule in grammar - I am well aware that this rule is not steadfast.

However, if someone wants to take some time to explain when you use "the" (pronounced thu) and "the" (pronounced "thee") in speach, I'm willing to listen.

Vansmack, trust me, I'm a grammar NUT. Here's an interesting thought – which would you use before "huge." Those poor schmoes who say huge without the "H" sound are stuck with "a yuge can of woop ass."

I learned about the two pronunciations of "the" once as well; I was doing a reading at a ceremony. Alas, I can't remember if this is it exactly (with no exceptions), but it also has to do with the beginning sound of the following word – I think it's "thee" when the next word starts with a vowel sound. So you don't get caught saying "tha ah…." and sounding like Sly Stallone. And yes, I know that was actually a sentence fragment!

;)