Okay Kids, Start Deleting!
The RIAA said its lawyers will file lawsuits initially against people with the largest collections of music files they can find online. U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer , but Sherman said the RIAA will be open to settlement proposals from defendants.this should read open and say ahh… and oh by the way empty your bank account and start from scratch.
So I had this weird thought this morning.
IF (and I do mean if) the RIAA cared about artists, they would be voicing more concern about the mega-mergers which are booting hundreds of artists off of lable rosters, rather than downloading which many artists support.
Obviously, they aren't out to help the artists in any way shape or form, but I thought this was funny.
IF (and I do mean if) the RIAA cared about artists, they would be voicing more concern about the mega-mergers which are booting hundreds of artists off of lable rosters, rather than downloading which many artists support.
Obviously, they aren't out to help the artists in any way shape or form, but I thought this was funny.
Now I'm not offering any legal advice, but if I were a file trader, not saying that I am, this is what I've "heard" works.
Don't Delete, just move the majority of your files to a non-shared folder, then you aren't offering "substantial" files.
Don't leave your file trading software on all the time. Sing-on, get what you need, then sign off. And MOVE YOUR FILE when you're done downloading it to the non-shared folder.
Let the overseas file traders take the risk - the RIAAA does not yet have standing to go after non-American file traders. That's why they've stopped going after the software makers - they aren't American.
Don't Delete, just move the majority of your files to a non-shared folder, then you aren't offering "substantial" files.
Don't leave your file trading software on all the time. Sing-on, get what you need, then sign off. And MOVE YOUR FILE when you're done downloading it to the non-shared folder.
Let the overseas file traders take the risk - the RIAAA does not yet have standing to go after non-American file traders. That's why they've stopped going after the software makers - they aren't American.
i was wondering about riaa overseas reach… and notice it's never mentioned in these news stories that they aren't going after overseas file sharers.
File sharer's my arse…you're all nothing but a bunch of thieves….if I go into Tower and decide to nick a cd and get caught I'll just tell them I'm "sharing" it!
Hope you all rot in jail and get your arses reemed every day by some huge black dude called Tyrone!
Hope you all rot in jail and get your arses reemed every day by some huge black dude called Tyrone!
Another weird thought. If the RIAA wants to improve business, is it really in their best interest to prosecute their customers?
Hmm, a great many of the "theives" are college students who don't have the money to begin with. You think you're going to win your way into their hearts by suing them for all the money that they don't have?
The thing is, there are really 3 types of consumers:
a) avid music fans mainly younger folk who will often buy the music if they really like it, but generally need a chance to hear it.
b) middle of the road music fan who'll buy the new eminem if there's a free DVD to entice them
c) housewives who bought a copy of Beatles #1, or maybe got it for Christmas
© won't give you much business, and (b) can generally be roped in with incientive. the industry is making no real attempt to appeal to (a) which is why their losing ground. They shouldn't be scolding, they should be inovating. But it ain't gonna happen.
Hmm, a great many of the "theives" are college students who don't have the money to begin with. You think you're going to win your way into their hearts by suing them for all the money that they don't have?
The thing is, there are really 3 types of consumers:
a) avid music fans mainly younger folk who will often buy the music if they really like it, but generally need a chance to hear it.
b) middle of the road music fan who'll buy the new eminem if there's a free DVD to entice them
c) housewives who bought a copy of Beatles #1, or maybe got it for Christmas
© won't give you much business, and (b) can generally be roped in with incientive. the industry is making no real attempt to appeal to (a) which is why their losing ground. They shouldn't be scolding, they should be inovating. But it ain't gonna happen.
Originally posted by mankie:Now don't be bitter because it's technology and you wouldn't have the slightest idea on how to do it.
File sharer's my arse…you're all nothing but a bunch of thieves….if I go into Tower and decide to nick a cd and get caught I'll just tell them I'm "sharing" it!
Hope you all rot in jail and get your arses reemed every day by some huge black dude called Tyrone!
Ask your kids, maybe they'll show you.
Originally posted by mankie:Ha.
File sharer's my arse…you're all nothing but a bunch of thieves….if I go into Tower and decide to nick a cd and get caught I'll just tell them I'm "sharing" it!
Hope you all rot in jail and get your arses reemed every day by some huge black dude called Tyrone!
I've stopped using file sharing, but I often used to use it to hear arists whose music I could never hear otherwise without buying the album. Nothing like working at a college radio station, and being able to hear most new cds a month before they hit the stores without breaking any laws.
And personally, I think Towers prices are an affront. But sadly they often have the best selection. How unfair.
Bitch. Piss. Moan. Complain.
Originally posted by mjnova:Tower has the best selection on what planet?
And personally, I think Towers prices are an affront. But sadly they often have the best selection. How unfair.
Originally posted by mjnova:I can't afford to buy a plasma screen tv so I think I'll just go and "share" one from Myer Emco…whaddyathink?
Hmm, a great many of the "theives" are college students who don't have the money to begin with. You think you're going to win your way into their hearts by suing them for all the money that they don't have?
If you can't afford to buy a fucking $20 cd maybe it's time to get off your lazy arse and go flip burgers.
Originally posted by jadetree:I mean compared to chains. Compared to real record store and it's no contest. But say tower v. boarders v. best buy v. fye, you have the best chance of finding something at tower, I've found.
Originally posted by mjnova:Tower has the best selection on what planet?
And personally, I think Towers prices are an affront. But sadly they often have the best selection. How unfair.
All this is doing, is making us more creative. I mean, even when I was on Napster, I didn't share ALL of my files. I would share a few , and use chat rooms and instant messaging to check out peoples songs, and THEN I would trade kind of.
internet chat relay (www.mirc.com) is the best way I get music. But you have to kind of know people in there. If people did that, then the only way to catch people is to have internet "informants" who pretended to be traders and then would catch you that way, kind of like the war on drugs, and see how that worked?
Besides, who really uses freakin Kazaa? all you get are clipped/misnamed files for Linkin Park songs….its crap anyway, RIAA will be so busy suing people who DL that crap, they'll never get to the casual trader.
That said, I only download stuff to hear new music, but i never decline to buy something because "i can just download it"
internet chat relay (www.mirc.com) is the best way I get music. But you have to kind of know people in there. If people did that, then the only way to catch people is to have internet "informants" who pretended to be traders and then would catch you that way, kind of like the war on drugs, and see how that worked?
Besides, who really uses freakin Kazaa? all you get are clipped/misnamed files for Linkin Park songs….its crap anyway, RIAA will be so busy suing people who DL that crap, they'll never get to the casual trader.
That said, I only download stuff to hear new music, but i never decline to buy something because "i can just download it"
Originally posted by mjnova:uhhh, you are aware that tower is a chain too, and that they are part of the settlement regarding manipulation of cd prices, as posted by smackie in another thread.
I mean compared to chains. Compared to real record store and it's no contest. But say tower v. boarders v. best buy v. fye, you have the best chance of finding something at tower, I've found.
Why not just go to the various used cd places…much cheaper and it's great feeling when you find a cd you've been wanting for ages and only pay about $7 for it.
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:Yes. That's my point. their prices are expensive and compared to chains (of which they are a subset) their selection is good. I'm not putting tower in the same league as say, Amoeba Music.
Originally posted by mjnova:uhhh, you are aware that tower is a chain too, and that they are part of the settlement regarding manipulation of cd prices, as posted by smackie in another thread.
I mean compared to chains. Compared to real record store and it's no contest. But say tower v. boarders v. best buy v. fye, you have the best chance of finding something at tower, I've found.
Originally posted by mankie:My computer is pretty much knackered and I don't do any downloading at all….but I have in the past. I think most people would argue that downloading in the best way to hear new music Mankie. You can download two or three songs by a band, and if you like it, go out and buy the commerical cd. Since radio is a joke nowadays, it's hard to just go out and buy music on word of mouth and reviews. If you couldn't download, most of us would be complaining that there is no good music out anymore! Sound familiar?
Why not just go to the various used cd places…much cheaper and it's great feeling when you find a cd you've been wanting for ages and only pay about $7 for it.
Originally posted by Yank:
My computer is pretty much knackered and I don't do any downloading at all….but I have in the past. I think most people would argue that downloading in the best way to hear new music Mankie. You can download two or three songs by a band, and if you like it, go out and buy the commerical cd. Since radio is a joke nowadays, it's hard to just go out and buy music on word of mouth and reviews. If you couldn't download, most of us would be complaining that there is no good music out anymore! Sound familiar?Your point is well taken..BUT! There must be a way for the Bill Gates of the world to figure out how you can download music but as soon as it's been played it's erased and cannot be burned onto a cd.
I just think it's simply out and out stealing and wrong so something must be done about it. It's the same thing as getting a concert ticket and printing it over and over to give it to your mates so they get in a show for free.
I don't think it's much different from when you and I were kids and borrowing a mates album and making a cassette copy of it, or taping songs from the radio. The industry has created this problem promoting shit bands and artists and charging outrageous prices in return. A cassette costs more to manufacture than a cd but a cd costs more than the cassette. Why is that? The record industry can't fool all of the people all of the time! For my £12, the band deserves most of it and not just a rotten quid.