VP debate tonight

anyone else excited for tonight's veep debate? i am, because i'm hoping for one of two interesting outcomes:

1) palin provides the train wreck she's hinted at in interviews, or
2) palin wows everyone, does much better than most suspect she would, and the election is totally blown open.

these are my two "exciting" outcomes, unfortunately chances are we'll get a meddling result instead: both do OK, stick to the script (here's a hint at palin's) and neither does anything to change voters' opinions.

party starts at 9 pm. there are several VP debate drinking games out there: one, two, three.

I'm looking forward to it, but can't imagine any real fireworks. If Obama/Biden were behind 5-7 points rather than ahead, then I might expect Biden to come out swinging. But his goal in this is really to just avoid making a mistake.

I'm disappointed about the hoohaw about Ifill's Obama book because it might make her hesitant to follow up on Palin's answers. Plus it will give the Republicans something to scream and cry about if Palin does screw up (though they have so little shame that they'd shriek liberal bias if Barry Goldwater were moderating). They key will be getting Palin off of the talking points that have been drilled into her over the last week. She is great at serving/returning, but the risk for her is in the volley.

Must See TV reincarnated. Oh I can't wait to see the SNL skit of this debate.

I think it's going to be as boring and rehearsed as the first presidential debate.

I'm surprised that there's no financial crisis thread on here, other than the jokey songlist thread. What happened to ggw? He'd have something to say about the crisis.

Sadly, I agree.

GGW's off eating boomers somewhere. ;)

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
I think it's going to be as boring and rehearsed as the first presidential debate.

I'm surprised that there's no financial crisis thread on here, other than the jokey songlist thread. What happened to ggw? He'd have something to say about the crisis.

sweetie - palinbingo.com

As much as I'd love to see some real fireworks, I agree it probably won't happen.

The bar has been set so low for Palin (which I'm beginning to think is a very shrewd move by her people) that it will be hard for her to fail. She'll toss out a few zingers against Obama/Biden (a la "you're no Jack Kennedy") and as long as she finds Iraq on a map she'll be declared the winner.

I think it's going to be as boring and rehearsed as the first presidential debate.

Worse- pres debate was 2 mins statement each plus 5 mins discuss on each topic, veep is only 90 sec plus 2 mins, so no time for any more than a quick talking pt recitation, this was demanded by the Repugnicans

I hope she can recite this in 90 seconds???

"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don't have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and, uh, the Iraq everywhere like, such as and I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our children, man i'm tired."

After all is said and done with this whole thing, and Obama is president and she is still ruling alaska, I bet the thing Sara Palin enjoys reflecting upon most is the awesomeness of getting to meet Bono.

Regardless of what happens / doesn't happen I'm PSYCHED to watch tonight!!

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No anal? That's barely worth it :(

I'm not going to underestimate Palin's ability to rise to the occasion. Like her soulmate GWB, who for all his faults, threw that strike at Yankee Stadium when throwing out the first pitch after 9/11. How does someone seemingly so average rise to the top? By consistently rising to key occasions. That said, her schtick feels like nails on a chalkboard to me and I'm pretty sure that feeling will only be accentuated tonight.

On the other hand, it seems like Biden can't help but screw up when speaking in public. I expect a few ridiculous soundbites with legs (like Gore's lo-ock-bo-ox) from him. But if he can take a measured focused approach . . . good on him.

I just hope the moderator consistently asks each of them follow-up questions and doesn't let empty rhetorical answers hang in the air.

i hope Ifill is wearing an Obama shirt!

<img src="http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-sarah-palin-palindrome-forward-backward.jpg" alt=" - " />

(personally, based on her robotic repetition of canned answers, i would have went with "Palindrone"…)

Palin Bingo cards for tonight:
http://palinbingo.com/

so far, i'll say that palin is looking pretty solid!

Originally posted by sweetcell:
there are several VP debate drinking games out there: one, two, three.

dammit, i can't drink fast enough.

9:14 - biden goes on his first offensive… careful there, joey.

Biden's being fucking merciless.

Has Caribou Barbie answered one question directly (yes/no answers notwithstanding) yet?
I don't think she has.

9:27 - palin: "the toxic mess on main street that is affecting wall street"… her first gaffe, as far as i can tell. to be fair, biden has stuttered a few times thus far.

azaghal: i'm not sure he's being *merciless*… so far, relatively civilized by my reading. palin is being admirably restrained, to her credit.

OH, CLIMATE CHANGE!!! this is going to be interesting.