does anyone know for sure who is back with the pumpkins other than jimmy. i'm wondering who the bassist is gonna be, i'm hoping melissa. and i was wondering about james getting back with them. anyone have insite on this?
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james is out, which sucks, but im sure they can find someone who will be nearly as good……and im pretty sure they are gonna go with melissa for bass.
i hope your right about melissa, i liked her better with them than the crackhead d'arcy. sucks about james though. o well.
It appears to b Ginger Reyes on bass and Jeff Schroeder on second guitar.
Smashing Pumpkins rot.
More importantly…does anyone actually give a fuck about the smashing pumpkins at this point?
i am starting to think there are a few people on this board who dont really appreciate music at all!!!
(disclaimer: i am not saying that i like/appreciate/or ever was a fan of the Pumpkins)
(disclaimer: i am not saying that i like/appreciate/or ever was a fan of the Pumpkins)
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:Yes.
More importantly…does anyone actually give a fuck about the smashing pumpkins at this point?
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:Yes.
More importantly…does anyone actually give a fuck about the smashing pumpkins at this point?
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:no. billy burned those bridges long ago.
More importantly…does anyone actually give a fuck about the smashing pumpkins at this point?
I predict they rock like crazy and people will love it.
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:Why wouldn't they?
More importantly…does anyone actually give a fuck about the smashing pumpkins at this point?
When Smashing Pumpkins released "Siamese Dream" in 1993 and I saw them at the Metro in Chicago the week that record got released, I thought they were going to blow Nirvana right out of the water. They were a better live band than Nirvana (when the Pumpkins were having a good night that is), and I still will put on their first 2 LPs and be blown away by them. I never, ever get an urge to listen to Nirvana. (I know, maybe it's an unfair comparison.) That being said, I think the Pumpkins made some huge mistakes and especially Billy Corgan screwed up a bunch of stuff for that band. He is a big baby. I've met him about 4 times, and only once was he ever civil (and trust me…I only approached him once out of the 4 times). I've never seen any lineup other than the original 4, and I'm sure Melissa is great on bass, but at this point I seriously doubt they will ever release music as good as when had in the early 90's. But I wish them luck, hopefully baby Billy will get what he's looking for. Just my 2 cents.
I still love Siamese Dream and Gish. I could never get into the other albums though. Also, everytime I saw them perform live on television, they seemed like they sucked, so I never had the desire to see them live.
Sucked as in, Billy's voice sounds like crap live. Not their music.
Gish rocked my world…saw them for free about a week after it came out with 100 other people. We'd never heard them before, but it was free so why not….
Bought the record the next day. They really killed live.
That said, i've never had an interest in any of their other albums or seeing them again during their arena years, original lineup or not. But Gish was a shining moment in a blurry drunken year of my life. Good times. Guitars all day and all night. Mudhoney, Nirvana, The Fluid, Stooges, Pumkins, Thee Hypnotics…..things were loud that year.
And Gish was a great album to play while doing the nasty…..just thought I'd mention that.
Bought the record the next day. They really killed live.
That said, i've never had an interest in any of their other albums or seeing them again during their arena years, original lineup or not. But Gish was a shining moment in a blurry drunken year of my life. Good times. Guitars all day and all night. Mudhoney, Nirvana, The Fluid, Stooges, Pumkins, Thee Hypnotics…..things were loud that year.
And Gish was a great album to play while doing the nasty…..just thought I'd mention that.
Gish was great and all, but I don't think it's even close to the be-all, end-all of the Smashing Pumpkins (or Corgan's) oeuvre. I'm not really willing to pick one album over another. I think they're all pretty damn good in different ways. Probably the only Smashing Pumpkins album I'm not all that crazy about is MACHINA, but I always end up liking it whenever I give it a listen.
I couldn't care less whether Corgan is an asshole or a big baby or an egotist. It should be and is about the music, as far as I'm concerned, and I think it's great stuff. The Smashing Pumpkins are certainly one of the best bands of the '90s. I really enjoyed Zwan, too. I do think Corgan lost his way a bit with TheFutureEmbrace. I believe he's admitted as much, and that's part of why he's reuniting with Jimmy Chamberlin. If they release a new album, I'll be right in line to buy it.
I couldn't care less whether Corgan is an asshole or a big baby or an egotist. It should be and is about the music, as far as I'm concerned, and I think it's great stuff. The Smashing Pumpkins are certainly one of the best bands of the '90s. I really enjoyed Zwan, too. I do think Corgan lost his way a bit with TheFutureEmbrace. I believe he's admitted as much, and that's part of why he's reuniting with Jimmy Chamberlin. If they release a new album, I'll be right in line to buy it.
Siamese Dream was the about the 4th album I ever bought. It was and still remains one of the most amazing albums I've ever heard. My personal take is that as a band they were fantastically interesting album by album. Gish to start things rolling, SD topped it by about a million miles, and Mellon Collie was pretty much insane. Overblown and gargantuan, but still great as far being eclectic and adventurous. I rather the fact that losing jimmy for a while enabled them to explore some softer more electronica sounds for just one album, then the two Machina albums just put everything together for me. It seemed like a decent run and that they had ended up full circle and on a high note. Only problem was, never got around to seeing them. So even this new incarnation will be heaven for me, and as long as it's Billy and Jimmy, it doesn't really matter who else as long as their competent.
Melissa is not in the band, I believe she has said so herself, which is sad. I might be one of the few people who really liked Corgan's solo album. I listen to it weekly almost. I'm not sure how Smashing Pumpkins will be now. I don't see how it will be any different from Zwan at the end of the day. I'll get the album and go to the shows. I hope its a good ride, but I am kinda skeptical.
Originally posted by Darth Ed:Amen, finally a voice of reason (well if not exactly reason at least one I agree with). I think you have to take the catalog as a whole as the albums complement one another very well, so I expect something different yet complementary to everything else. It will be Pumpkin-esque I imagine and I don't care who's in the band, as "cool" as it would be to get Darcy out of rehab, and placate James fractured ego the bottom line is the voice, songwriting, and bottom (Jimmy) of the sound will be there and that's good enough for me. I was watching a video from the Adore pre-tour they did in europe, and they had 3 percussionists during Jimmy's absence (not necessarily because of his absence) and it made me laugh.
Gish was great and all, but I don't think it's even close to the be-all, end-all of the Smashing Pumpkins (or Corgan's) oeuvre. I'm not really willing to pick one album over another. I think they're all pretty damn good in different ways. Probably the only Smashing Pumpkins album I'm not all that crazy about is MACHINA, but I always end up liking it whenever I give it a listen.
I couldn't care less whether Corgan is an asshole or a big baby or an egotist. It should be and is about the music, as far as I'm concerned, and I think it's great stuff. The Smashing Pumpkins are certainly one of the best bands of the '90s. I really enjoyed Zwan, too. I do think Corgan lost his way a bit with TheFutureEmbrace. I believe he's admitted as much, and that's part of why he's reuniting with Jimmy Chamberlin. If they release a new album, I'll be right in line to buy it.
Anyway I'm going to the Paris show and Pink Pop festival so I'll give a first hand account of whether this lives up to pumpkin lore, merely starts a new chapter, or not worthy of the name.
My first SP show was at a fetish club in Hollywood back in 1990 prior to the gish release, still have a footprint on the t-shirt I got at that show with all the flailing around. At that point I thought if they put out an album they could easily open for Janes Addiction at the Pallidium or headline the Troubador….little did I know…