has all the great music already been created?

late 60's, mid-late 70's,early 80's,early 90's. am i wrong or does all the best new music copy the time periods i listed? is 99% of all the current music and bands a waste of time?

yes.

i thought perhaps it was because i am getting older [35 now], but no, i think alot of bands these days sound like as beavis said to butthead once while seeing a video come on tv "OH GOD beavis [with lisp], not another group of whining english mama's boys" as they preceded to mockingly sing along something like the cure [who are in fact good tho]. :D

Originally posted by anarchist:
late 60's, mid-late 70's,early 80's,early 90's. am i wrong or does all the best new music copy the time periods i listed? is 99% of all the current music and bands a waste of time?

Which centuries are you talking of? :D

Even Arnold Schoenberg has been credited with saying that there is still a lot of good music left to be written in C Major. For that matter, there is far more good music available than you can ever listen to. That is what is frustrating.

Madonna's still got a few good albums in her.

so long as shes got the syph, right?

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1 2 3 4 Whatever happened to good music? You know in the days when you could feel it?
It was almost sexual, sending shivers up your spine. This, I believe is
because songwriters were not restricted by the small music dictatorship which
now exists. Let's hope the future holds something better than the present and
let's leave the past alone. The music business is incapable of bringing music
to the future, as it sits just waiting to pounce on any third rate trend,
milking it to death, once again putting money where the music is not. I only
wish I was born before all the great ideas were used. While I struggle to
working around this, the most annoying thing is watching other people succeed
through stealing them. I could have been a legend in my own time; I could
have sold a lot of records; I could have enjoyed it as well. I could have
been a lot of things. One thing that I know I am and will always be: I am the
greatest.

I bumped into this bloke the other day we used to know in school. We didn't
say 'hello' because he had his hair slightly perked and I had all mine shaved
off. He was always a bit of a clown. He used to be a hard man, but he did
his homework, because he knew that one day he'd be going places. I knew I
should have asked him there and then 'was he happy now that he'd finally got
there?' He goes to bed thinking of ways to fiddle ten more pounds on his
expenses. Me? I go to bed thinking of all the reasons why I am the greatest.

We always use other people as the mirror in which we judge ourselves. So, we
are constantly changing to meet their expectations. Maybe we've forgotten the
meaning of the word 'individual.' It's as if everything we do or think is
valued for its conformity. Anything fresh or original is hacked down and
always brought down to size. You don't even think for yourself, as a life
that is led for you is some kind of problem. You wouldn't recognize a new
idea if it spat in your face and screamed out [?]. Who am I to
talk? Who the hell do I think I am? I am the greatest.

Welcome to the wonderful world of show business. The dark and dank place
rarely lit by the harsh light of reality. I look around and I see big
mouthed rock stars with opinions on everything and answers to nothing.
Burnt out old men with money to burn. Bandwagons full of bands with
sycophantic fans with no lives of their own. A place where image is king and
music is a poorer relation that I can relate to. I am the greatest.

I am the greatest.

I am!

I definitely think that there are few original ideas these days. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah is trying to be the Talking Heads, Elkland is trying to be Erasure, everyone else is trying to be Gang of Four or Wire or the Fall or the Cure, and not doing a good job at it. Not that there aren't some decent records being made today, but it's going to be interesting how a lot of this stuff stands up in 5 or 10 years. One has to admire someone attempting diversity or following through with an original thought, but a lot of stuff today is missing the element of danger, and that is what makes rock'n'roll exciting and vital. Imagine how edgy it would have been to listen to Black Sabbath or the Stooges in 1970, or living in England in 1977 and listening to the Sex Pistols or the Damned.

Just call me…
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What about Coldplay?

thank you, a house.

Originally posted by clouds R²:
What about Coldplay?

is that an argument for there still being great music created? they sound like U2 with a piano and a vocaliizing hobbit. don't get me wrong, I appreciate the poppiness and all but … yeeesh

Fisty, I was being sarcastic. I thought that Coldplay was the new Radiohead?

Neither band I have ever heard.

Huge difference between Coldplay and Radiohead. I actually think that Radiohead do something pretty unique and interesting and make a genuine stab at trying to write good music and defy convention. Coldplay really put me to sleep and I hate Chris Martin's voice.

I think this is an argument that is rehashed a lot; a lot of people thought that the music of the early-90's was simply derivative of the 70's - Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, etc. I don't know that we can pinpoint what will be remembered as the actual music of the 00's yet. We're not removed from it; the fact is, the things that we tend to think aren't derivative are those that have less definitive influences. right now, we're at a heyday of people who grew up in the late 70's and 1980's who really liked dance music and new wave. Consequently, that's probably the music that they want to make. 20 year cycles, after all - its when the people who listened to the music as kids are finally old enough and talented enough to make it themselves.

"t" comes before "s"

point taken

Originally posted by clouds R²:
Fisty, I was being sarcastic. I thought that Coldplay was the new Radiohead?

Neither band I have ever heard.

The answer is absolutely not.

I'm sure somebody said the same thing in the 18th Century about Bach and Handel, then came Hyden and Mozart. So that must be the end. Then came Beethoven. Then Schubert, Mendelssohn, and Chopin; then Wagner, Brahms, and Verdi. That must be the end.

Then came Stravinsky.

This was over a 300 year period.

Rock and roll is what, 50 years old - 70 max? And you're already giving up? Please.

Now go to your local record store, scour for something obscure and take a chance on something.

You might even like it.

The comparison with classical music is not apt, because that is a form with infinite complexity and possibilities. 90 percent of rock, whether it's classic or indie relies on the same three or four chords, and the same old drummer-bassist-guitarist configuration, with a few variations. You get too far away from those configurations and it's no longer rock.

I can think of very, very few truly original sounds in the last 20 years. Even punk, which was supposed to be a huge groundbreaking moment is mainly just 60s pop played faster and louder.

i don't think i agree that the comparison with classical music isn't apt. take classical music for solo instruments - piano as an ideal example. I think its very safe to say that piano music evolved over time, and continues to do so today. and the piano has the same 88 keys now as it used to 300 years ago.

rock music can be many things, and I think there is a fair amount that is pretty original that is coming out. and I also don't think that the instrumentation is as restricted as you're making it - what about bands like the Verve or Spiritualized who make extensive use of string arrangments? it might not be on the mainstream radar, or even in the catalogue of most indie snobs, but i think its definitely out there, and will continue to be so. and some of it (see: the Mars Volta, as an example, even though I don't particularly care for them; I also think the Most Serene Republic record is very innovative and interesting - they'll be at 9:30 with Metric) has been having some success.

To answer your question, certainly not! That's just the ramblings of an old fart. Believe me, I've been around long enough to hear this from a variety of people who are settling in with their lives and just getting bored with music, all due to their own positions within their own life's path. We'll continue to have lots of good music along with a whole lot of crap. It's all part of the evolution of music.

I'll preface this by saying that I despise more "out there" and "challenging" music than at least 98% of this board. But I think it's so funny reading ppl here demanding NEW and ORIGINAL kinds of music yet nobodies comin' out their shell for these fun,wildly fascinating, and at times mindblowingly transcendent shows at warehouse next door, dc9, 611 florida, dc arts center, etc, etc. If anyone cares, these are a couple of bands/artists coming through the district in the next month that I feel are expanding upon traditional, ordinary aesthetic experiences in creative and exciting ways:

LoVid -Next Tuesday at Dc9. if you caught the visual music exhibit at the hirshorn this summer, you'll totally dig this. synasthesia via dirty diy electronix, video projections and a knack for tasteful theatrical presentation. Like seeing an audio/video installation come to life.

Mouthus-Oct 28 at Warehouse. Thats a Friday. If you've never hit up a show here, the PA is not the best in the world. Sound is hit or miss really but the quality level of acts that have come through this place in the past couple of years has been unparalleled. Anyways, Mouthus rules all. Best band out of New York right now as far as I'm concerned. Will fuck with your head. Beautiful.

and if you're really up for a challenge, check out the finest avant troupe the east coast has to offer—straight out of filthy Bmore, Nautical Almanac. They take DIY ethics to new extremes, although they are probably more likely to be following in the path of eastern european free jazz cats rather than some overpraised snores from DC. Anyways, these goofs are playing 611 Florida next friday with some other bands that should all be interesting. Plus, they know how to party. Go to a show at their house, you'll know what I mean. Bust out the Baltimore Club music!!!!