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Rhett Miller
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 03:09 PM UTC #
All married people have that look now and then. Some just do a better job than others of hiding it from the general public.

Originally posted by Sir HC:
Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
Originally posted by Sir HC:
So the keyboardist is his new wife I hear. Goth gal with Mark E.
As Bede pointed out last night, she looked like she hated him. She was giving him looks of disdain the whole night.
Thought she had the look of "What have I gotten myself into".
markie
Joined: October 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 03:27 PM UTC #
I thought they were little looks of love…..

I know that they are little looks of love when my wife looks at me like that.

At the bar after the show the barman was saying how they had to revive Mark E with smelling salts as he was fuckfaced and that is why they came on stage so late.

I thought they sounded great though.

Did anyone recognise a single song?
mankie
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 04:02 PM UTC #
Originally posted by the scientist:


Did anyone recognise a single song?

From what your saying Mark E. didn't.
Sir HC
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 04:03 PM UTC #
Several songs I recognized. Didn't hit some of my fav's but did do New Big Prinz (last before the encore). Band had a great lock-step groove going.

Openers were good too. Anyone recognize the drummer from bartending at the 9:30?
markie
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 04:12 PM UTC #
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by the scientist:


Did anyone recognise a single song?

From what your saying Mark E. didn't.
No he performed flawlessly. His actions on stage were alittle erratic and odd. But he did sound really good. then isnt that what you say about your drunk mate shane, of the black teath?
markie
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 04:15 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Sir HC:
Several songs I recognized. Didn't hit some of my fav's but did do New Big Prinz (last before the encore). Band had a great lock-step groove going.

Openers were good too. Anyone recognize the drummer from bartending at the 9:30?
Ahh new big Prinz that one did sound a little familiar, now I know why.

I was surprised that they didnt play any of their bigger selling singles….

no, hit the north or Victoria, or kurious Oranj or Frenz.

Come to think of it I wasnt surprised or dissappointed, I knew they wouldnt. I would have loved to have heard them though.
mankie
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 04:16 PM UTC #
Originally posted by the scientist:


No he performed flawlessly. His actions on stage were alittle erratic and odd. But he did sound really good. then isnt that what you say about your drunk mate shane, of the black teath?

It's obviously been a while since you last saw Shane, (God bless him) He has no teeth these days.

I wish he were my mate, I'd love to go out on the piss with him.
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 04:18 PM UTC #
Originally posted by mankie:
I wish he were my mate
You do realize that "mate" has different connotations in the U.S.?
mankie
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 04:20 PM UTC #
Hey scientist markie wk….I just realized, I was thinking of The Farm, not The Fall. I was wondering why you were getting all erect and lubricated over the frigging Farm!

A couple too many rugby games will play havoc with a mans memory….oh, and the old age thing doesn't help either!
mankie
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 04:21 PM UTC #
Originally posted by ggw:


You do realize that "mate" has different connotations in the U.S.?

and "buddy" has different connotations in UK!

We truly are two nations divided by a common language aren't we?
slappy
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 06:15 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You're a dope, Slappy. Since when does an opinion that differs from yours on something as subjective as music make my opinion unintelligent?

In my mind:

Legend: the Clash Not Legend: The Fall
Legend: Lynrd Skynrd Not Legend: Molly Hatchett
Legend: The Beatles Not Legend: Oasis
Legend: The Smiths Not Legend: the Housemartins
Legend: Hank Williams Not Legend: George Strait

Christ, not every good band can be called a legend. Get over it.

Like I said unintelligent…
Music opinions may subjective but you could actually try listening to a band that you bash.

If you had actually heard the Fall you would realize they sound nothing like the Clash.

Newsflash! Not all British bands that formed in the late 70s are derivative of the Clash.

A more accurate analogy would be:
Legend: Jay Farrar Not a Legend: Rhett Miller
Jaguär
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 06:29 PM UTC #
Holy shit! That was his wife!? :eek: Well, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. It's amazing what some women will put up with for art. She was very attractive….and young. In fact, I thought that she looked like an Indie Madame Alexander doll. As far as those looks, she just seemed dead inside all night. Almost no feeling towards anything except when he came over to move her mic and she seemed pissed off about that for some reason. Maybe he didn't want her singing anymore. LOL. That threw me off a bit as he moved it in a way that he seemed to be really pissed off about something. For a moment, I thought that they were going to get into a brawl right there on stage.

And what the f*(^ was that coat rack at the end about!?!?!? LOLOLOLOL. That made no sense whatsoever. Though that guy who came out cracked me up. He looked like the band had stopped off in West Virginia or Kentucky and picked up some stray from a My Morning Jacket show. He was wearing a Pabst cap and fat and all sraggely, having a good old time playing the rack of a broiler pan with a spoon. Sounded damn good too!

I've decided that Mark E. Smith is the Charles Bukowski of Manchester.
markie
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 06:29 PM UTC #
Originally posted by mankie:
Hey scientist markie wk….I just realized, I was thinking of The Farm, not The Fall. I was wondering why you were getting all erect and lubricated over the frigging Farm!
Tool!!!

you big 'fing tool.

I thought of you last night, there were people in all sorts of Brit band T-shirts….. Smiths, Morrissey, cinerama, even a couple of Pogues Ts….. If you like music by these bands you should like the fall.
Rhett Miller
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 06:33 PM UTC #
Actually, I own a copy of he 12" for the Fall's "Telephone Thing" which came out in 1990, so I actually have listened to the band. And I never said they were derivative of the Clash. George Strait is certainly not derivative of Hank Williams, not are the Housemartins derivative of the Smiths, not my implication at all.

I never said Rhett Miller was a legend. I would say:

Legend: Gram Parsons Not Legend: Rhett Miller

To call Jay Farrar a legend would be a joke. He keeps putting out the same song over and over, and it gets less interesting every time.


Originally posted by slappy:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
You're a dope, Slappy. Since when does an opinion that differs from yours on something as subjective as music make my opinion unintelligent?

In my mind:

Legend: the Clash Not Legend: The Fall
Legend: Lynrd Skynrd Not Legend: Molly Hatchett
Legend: The Beatles Not Legend: Oasis
Legend: The Smiths Not Legend: the Housemartins
Legend: Hank Williams Not Legend: George Strait

Christ, not every good band can be called a legend. Get over it.

Like I said unintelligent…
Music opinions may subjective but you could actually try listening to a band that you bash.

If you had actually heard the Fall you would realize they sound nothing like the Clash.

Newsflash! Not all British bands that formed in the late 70s are derivative of the Clash.

A more accurate analogy would be:
Legend: Jay Farrar Not a Legend: Rhett Miller
jadetree
Joined: April 22, 2002 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 3161
Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 06:47 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
To call Jay Farrar a legend would be a joke. He keeps putting out the same song over and over, and it gets less interesting every time.
There are a lot of people telling jokes out there then. How do you define being a legend, does that happen based on what you did or what you continue to do. Maybe you dont think Uncle Tupelo influenced a lot of people but a lot of people do and Farrar wrote a lot of their songs.
Rhett Miller
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 06:55 PM UTC #
We'll see if Jay Farrar is as revered in alt-country circles 20-30 years from now as Gram Parsons is today. If he is, I'll gladly grant him "legend" status.

When is the Jay Farrar tribute album coming out, anyway?

Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
To call Jay Farrar a legend would be a joke. He keeps putting out the same song over and over, and it gets less interesting every time.
There are a lot of people telling jokes out there then. How do you define being a legend, does that happen based on what you did or what you continue to do. Maybe you dont think Uncle Tupelo influenced a lot of people but a lot of people do and Farrar wrote a lot of their songs.
jadetree
Joined: April 22, 2002 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 06:58 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
We'll see if Jay Farrar is as revered in alt-country circles 20-30 years from now as Gram Parsons is today. If he is, I'll gladly grant him "legend" status.

When is the Jay Farrar tribute album coming out, anyway?

I wasn't aware there is a Jay Farrar tribute album coming out.

If you are making a point the legends have tribute albums, I am glad to hear you think that Weezer are legends. I am sure with some more thought I could come up with more dubious legends. Could you not see an eventual Uncle Tupelo tribute album?
Celeste
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 07:05 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
To call Jay Farrar a legend would be a joke. He keeps putting out the same song over and over, and it gets less interesting every time.
yeah and he's got a retard's hair cut these days…poor Jay
Rhett Miller
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 07:09 PM UTC #
Who would play on an Uncle Tupelo tribute album? Probably lesser known bands… I was simply trying to point out that it's probably too early to really guage if Uncle Tupelo will have any kind of lasting impact, whereas it's quite certain that Gram Parsons has, as evidenced by the impressive array of artists who were on his tribute album (below). I mean what did Uncle Tupelo contribute to the music world that others hadn't already? Jason and the Scorchers were melding punk with country long before Uncle Tupelo ever formed…


1. She performed by Pretenders / Emmylou Harris - 4:51
2. Ooh Las Vegas performed by Cowboy Junkies - 5:21
3. Sin City performed by Beck / Emmylou Harris - 4:01
4. $1000 Wedding performed by Evan Dando / Juliana Hatfield - 3:07
5. Hot Burrito #1 performed by Mavericks - 3:54
6. High Fashion Queen performed by Chris Hillman / Steve Earle - 3:06
7. Juanita performed by Sheryl Crow / Emmylou Harris - 2:42
8. Sleepless Nights performed by Elvis Costello - 2:57
9. Return of the Grievous Angel performed by Lucinda Williams / David Crosby - 4:19
10. One Hundred Years from Now performed by Wilco - 2:53
11. A Song for You performed by Whiskeytown - 6:40
12. Hickory Wind performed by Gillian Welch - 4:38
13. In My Hour of Darkness performed by Rolling Creekdippers - 4:47


Originally posted by Bob Pollard:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
We'll see if Jay Farrar is as revered in alt-country circles 20-30 years from now as Gram Parsons is today. If he is, I'll gladly grant him "legend" status.

When is the Jay Farrar tribute album coming out, anyway?

I wasn't aware there is a Jay Farrar tribute album coming out.

If you are making a point the legends have tribute albums, I am glad to hear you think that Weezer are legends. I am sure with some more thought I could come up with more dubious legends. Could you not see an eventual Uncle Tupelo tribute album?
Jaguär
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Re: The Fall July 11, 2003 at 07:10 PM UTC #
Anyone hear about Coldplay coming back again?
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