So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 02:47 PM UTC
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Al Sharpton that tirelessly crusading anti-racist stegosaurus, recently dipped his chocolatey toes in hot water when he alleged that Mormonism isn't endorsed by God.
"As for the one Mormon running for office," Sharpton said yesterday regarding the lantern-jawed, impossibly handsome Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, "those who really believe in God will defeat him anyways."
I've been to Utah. If there's one American state pretty enough to serve as God's headquarters, it'd be Utah.
But I don't believe God was a range-rovin' Utah cowboy who took a siesta for 1800 years after his son's crucifixion, then wiped the boogers from his eyes and busted out with a New Revelation to a mentally cracked Joseph Smith and a purportedly very well-hung Brigham Young.
Something about it just doesn't seem plausible to me.
Plus, they've done away with polygamy, which was by far their strongest selling point.
Known any Mormons? I have. Pretty dense people.
Doctor Doom
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 03:28 PM UTC
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the main flaw with Mormonism is that some of its myths took place recently enough in the past to be easily debunkable, whereas most religions' myths took place so long ago that nobody can actually prove they are not true.
PigIron
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 04:59 PM UTC
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But, does anybody really want either of them in charge of anything, at the end of the day? My rule of thumb is to avoid joining any faith that requires you don underwear with mysterious secret symbols on 'em.
When it comes to who the president should be, I could give a shit about religious faith.
All religions are creepy in some way. Damn, I'm Catholic, and if there was an annual "Religion is Creepy National Parade", we might be in front, holding the banner.
Trust me, I see how its easy to make the Mormons a target for jokes. And I oppose Romney on every issue. But isn't it a tiny bit wrong to go after a candidate for his religious faith? I see the position of president like I see all the other important jobs in this country. I want people who are capable to fill these positions and not screw up. The president who gets elected can worship a friggin pile of horse shit if he wants to, as long as he gets the country out of the dumpster.
And Al Sharpton is an a-hole anyway.
lwoxley
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 05:00 PM UTC
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They do look awfully smart in their dark suits and name badges though.
lwoxley
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 05:03 PM UTC
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But isn't it a tiny bit wrong to go after a candidate for his religious faith?
Not at all, no offense, but I don't want a muslim in charge of any country I live in….or more importantly any country the women I care deeply about live in.
PigIron
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 05:09 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
But isn't it a tiny bit wrong to go after a candidate for his religious faith?
Not at all, no offense, but I don't want a muslim in charge of any country I live in….or more importantly any country the women I care deeply about live in.
But you are stereotyping here. We've had an assload of Protestant presidents. And none have chosen to create a society where women play a subordinate role to men. However, some fundamentalist Baptists take this stand. Just like some fundamentalist Muslims do. Of course I wouldn't support a guy who sees women as second-class citizens - but it would be for that reason. I wouldn't cross him off the ballot immediately if I saw "Islam".
lwoxley
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 05:48 PM UTC
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I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs….end of story!
Doctor Doom
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 08:15 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs
<img src="
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/PotKettle_small.jpg" alt=" - " />
lwoxley
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 09:28 PM UTC
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Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs
<img src="http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/fun-images/PotKettle_small.jpg" alt=" - " />
Not sure were you read 'hate' in my comment, but you're entitled to your opinion.
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 09:46 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Not sure were you read 'hate' in my comment, but you're entitled to your opinion.
"That is one fucked up way of life," your words, can translate only a couple of ways – hate, or ignorance.
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 12, 2007 at 11:58 PM UTC
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From my experience with Muslims, I've found that, very generally speaking, there are two types. 1) The type that Mankie speaks of who believe that everyone outside of their beliefs should be destroyed. 2) Those who have chosen the Muslim way and respect all others as individuals who just think differently but deserve to be respected and treated as they wish themselves to be treated. Like any other group, the bad apples cast a bad shadow over the whole.
I do not at all have any respect for the first type I noted and would never vote for such a person. The second type I've mentioned have contained some of the best people that I have happened to meet. In fact, while I was teaching, the Muslim students and professionals that I've encountered where the most respecting of themselves and others and were my favorite people that I've encountered my entire time there. That type, I would vote for in a flash as long as their political agendas coincided with mine.
Guess that I would have to say the same about a Mormon; however, because of opposing political agendas, I would never vote for Mitt Romney.
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 13, 2007 at 01:13 PM UTC
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Well said, Jaguar.
lwoxley
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 13, 2007 at 02:11 PM UTC
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That's great Jag….very nice I'm sure.
Maybe your views would be different if you'd visited as many muslim countries as I have and seen muslim beliefs influence laws, or lived in a neighbourhood were non-muslims are the minority and been subjected to the way they treat non-muslims.
Then again….maybe not. ;)
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 13, 2007 at 02:11 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs….end of story!
you're an idiot
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 13, 2007 at 02:14 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
Maybe your views would be different if you'd visited as many muslim countries as I have and seen muslim beliefs influence laws, or lived in a neighbourhood were non-muslims are the minority and been subjected to the way they treat non-muslims.
maybe your views would be different if you didn't see something (hip-hop, islam, etc) and immediately take a broad-brush approach to its culture, damning everything in its path … you come off as really small-minded on here
Doctor Doom
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 13, 2007 at 02:39 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
That's great Jag….very nice I'm sure.
Maybe your views would be different if you'd visited as many muslim countries as I have and seen muslim beliefs influence laws, or lived in a neighbourhood were non-muslims are the minority and been subjected to the way they treat non-muslims.
Then again….maybe not. ;)
It's unfortunate when people have the opportunity to travel and yet still learn nothing.
Rhett Miller
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 13, 2007 at 03:16 PM UTC
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You mean when they don't afftect the enlightened Dr. Doom worldview?
Originally posted by They call me Doctor Doom.:
Originally posted by Roadbike Mankie:
That's great Jag….very nice I'm sure.
Maybe your views would be different if you'd visited as many muslim countries as I have and seen muslim beliefs influence laws, or lived in a neighbourhood were non-muslims are the minority and been subjected to the way they treat non-muslims.
Then again….maybe not. ;)
It's unfortunate when people have the opportunity to travel and yet still learn nothing.
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: So, How Ya Feelin' About the Mormons, Then?
May 13, 2007 at 04:07 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
You mean when they don't afftect the enlightened Dr. Doom worldview?
yeah, it's
soooo self-righteous to call bullshit on xenophobic crap like this:
"I don't care if you think I'm racist or not, but I want nothing to do with islam, muslim or whatever you want to call it. That is one fucked up way of life and full of nothing but hatred for anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs….end of story!"