fantasy football: a league of our own

Sunday night would work or after Wednesday (I'm on travel M-W). 

sweetcell wrote:
jeffml wrote:
I know it is tough to schedule a draft time that is good for everyone, so if no one else has a problem with the current time, I'll work with it.  Otherwise I would be ok with changing it.

if you had a choice, what would be your preference?

as mentioned before, i'm completely flexible - whatever works best for the group.
sweetcell wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
I signed up, guys.  Hope everyone is cool with a semi-newbie joining the fray!

welcome! 

this is what the league currently looks like:
- New Jersey Barebacks (sweetcell)
- Pigskin&Pigtails6949
- BookerT-Bars
- Rock N Roll Outlaws (Shadrach)
- TBD (Yada)
- Hoya Paranoia
- I Hate Pink Floyd (Brian Wallace)
- We Are Both Carls (crevers)
- Crump's Brother (jeffml)
- Stillwater

we're at 10 teams, which i think is the perfect size: good competition while allowing for some low-level talent to remain in free agency. should we lock down the league at 10?  or allow for 12 teams?


Currently has 11 teams, I assumed we were doing 10. Says there is a max of 14 teams. I honestly don't want to play with that many teams. Since we already have 11, I guess we have to make it 12, but if it goes over 12, I'm out.
Shadrach wrote:
Currently has 11 teams, I assumed we were doing 10. Says there is a max of 14 teams. I honestly don't want to play with that many teams. Since we already have 11, I guess we have to make it 12, but if it goes over 12, I'm out.


I think that's pissy and elitist.  The more, the merrier, I say.  People are so anal about this stuff.  It's NOT REAL FOOTBALL!  It's a game!  A diversion!  If more than 12 teams gives some menstrual cramps, then form two leagues.  The mods and the rockers.

Brian
we'll limit to 12, so there is room for one more team.  brian - i don't think it's elitist.  it make the game more interesting by assuring that there is a little depth to the free agent field.  otherwise, lose a starter and you're toast.

I've tried to set the limit to 12, but I get the following error message: "You cannot reduce the max teams below 14 because your league contains 11 teams and 3 teams have not yet been renewed from last season. (Error #643)"

so we need one of the three old-timers to step up, OR we need one to decline their invite so some fresh meat can join in.  i'll ping the geriatrics to get some movement (prune juice optional).
can i take the guy with the gun who's had too many beers tailgaiting . . . and you can have the other one with the "(insert team name here) sucks" shirt?
Brian_Wallace wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
Currently has 11 teams, I assumed we were doing 10. Says there is a max of 14 teams. I honestly don't want to play with that many teams. Since we already have 11, I guess we have to make it 12, but if it goes over 12, I'm out.


I think that's pissy and elitist.  The more, the merrier, I say.  People are so anal about this stuff.  It's NOT REAL FOOTBALL!  It's a game!  A diversion!  If more than 12 teams gives some menstrual cramps, then form two leagues.  The mods and the rockers.

Brian


Is this coming from someone who actually plays fantasy football? It's neither pissy, nor elitist to put a cap on the number of teams allowed in the league. It may be a "game" or a "diversion" but there is money on the line, which makes it a serious competition. In most fantasy leagues 10 or 12 teams is standard. More teams than that and the available pool of players is so watered down that it makes it nearly impossible to compete if you have a couple injuries. I'm speaking from experience, having played in many many leagues over the years. As for your "more than merrier" take, we've had problems filling the league with 10 teams in past years, so capping it isn't like shutting anyone out.

Perhaps you should start your own league, it's free on Yahoo and you can invite as many teams to join as you want. Good luck with that.
Shadrach wrote:

Is this coming from someone who actually plays fantasy football? It's neither pissy, nor elitist to put a cap on the number of teams allowed in the league. It may be a "game" or a "diversion" but there is money on the line, which makes it a serious competition. In most fantasy leagues 10 or 12 teams is standard. More teams than that and the available pool of players is so watered down that it makes it nearly impossible to compete if you have a couple injuries. I'm speaking from experience, having played in many many leagues over the years. As for your "more than merrier" take, we've had problems filling the league with 10 teams in past years, so capping it isn't like shutting anyone out.

Perhaps you should start your own league, it's free on Yahoo and you can invite as many teams to join as you want. Good luck with that.


Yes.  I'm embarrassed to admit that I've played fantasy football before.  Having less teams makes it more selfish, megalomaniacal and frankly, a little sad.  You want AS MANY of the good players and NO ONE ELSE can have them.  It smacks of: "If I can't play it my way, I'll take my ball and go home."  Yes, teams in a 14-team league will have a few less good players than teams in a 10 team league.  So what?  It evens the playing field.  If you pick good players, it shouldn't matter.  And if your players get hurt?  Well, you really can't control that can you?

Here's a good idea, Shadrach.  I'll start a league with ONE TEAM.  And you can JOIN!  Then you can have Ray Rice AND Arian Foster!  Andre Johnson AND Larry Fitzgerald!  How cool would that be for you?!?

Brian

P.S.  Plus, there's not "money on the line."  It's only $20!  That's like, 1/7 of a Neil Young ticket!
Brian_Wallace wrote:
Shadrach wrote:

Is this coming from someone who actually plays fantasy football? It's neither pissy, nor elitist to put a cap on the number of teams allowed in the league. It may be a "game" or a "diversion" but there is money on the line, which makes it a serious competition. In most fantasy leagues 10 or 12 teams is standard. More teams than that and the available pool of players is so watered down that it makes it nearly impossible to compete if you have a couple injuries. I'm speaking from experience, having played in many many leagues over the years. As for your "more than merrier" take, we've had problems filling the league with 10 teams in past years, so capping it isn't like shutting anyone out.

Perhaps you should start your own league, it's free on Yahoo and you can invite as many teams to join as you want. Good luck with that.


Yes.  I'm embarrassed to admit that I've played fantasy football before.  Having less teams makes it more selfish, megalomaniacal and frankly, a little sad.  You want AS MANY of the good players and NO ONE ELSE can have them.  It smacks of: "If I can't play it my way, I'll take my ball and go home."   Yes, teams in a 14-team league will have a few less good players than teams in a 10 team league.  So what?  It evens the playing field.  If you pick good players, it shouldn't matter.  And if your players get hurt?  Well, you really can't control that can you?

Here's a good idea, Shadrach.  I'll start a league with ONE TEAM.  And you can JOIN!  Then you can have Ray Rice AND Arian Foster!  Andre Johnson AND Larry Fitzgerald!  How cool would that be for you?!?

Brian

P.S.  Plus, there's not "money on the line."  It's only $20!  That's like, 1/7 of a Neil Young ticket!


Your understanding and expertise in the matters of fantasy football leave me astounded. I stand corrected. We should invite as many teams as we can. I am humbled and truly embarrassed by my selfish behavior. Where do I get off having the gall to make such outrageous demands as to limit the number of managers in the league? Thank you for showing me the way, I'm glad we have someone like you around with your uncanny vision to set us all straight. Much love and respect to you Brian.
I may have to drop out.  I don't think I can stand being in a league with BW and his views from a douch.
jeffml wrote:
I may have to drop out.  I don't think I can stand being in a league with BW and his views from a douch.


See?  Shaking from FEAR!

Brian

P.S.  "Views From A Douch."  Wasn't that a track on the first Arctic Monkeys album?  Or an old Duran Duran song?

Brian
so, ol' murphy has reared his head: a manager from last year informs me that he didn't get his invite, but would like to join.  i've informed him that we've hit our max number of teams.  i also said i'd ask if anybody wants out.

so if anyone has changed their mind about being in the league, you can drop out without guilt - we have someone who will gladly take your place.

Brian_Wallace wrote:
I'll start a league with ONE TEAM. 

so essentially, you want to play with yourself?  ;D

So you're guilting someone to drop out?  I'm not surprised.  You have 13 that want to play now, right?  Here's what you do: 

1. Increase the teams to 14.
2. Shadrach drops out.
3. Boom!  12 teams.

Brian
nope, no guilting involved here.  just checkin' in case we can make everyone happy by letting out someone who wants out and letting in someone who want in.  it's a long-shot, but ya never know (certainly not without asking).

although i can't subscribe to it, the logic of your solution is flawless ;D
I'll drop out.  Will do so sometime tonight. 
Crump's Brother.
jeffml wrote:
I'll drop out.  Will do so sometime tonight. 
Crump's Brother.


"I don't want you to drop out! What would I do without you?…No, no, NO! No. You… you… complete me."



Brian
is there any reason to leave the draft order random until 30 mins before? you can set it randomly now i believe, might give people a better chance for last minute prep if they know where they are picking.
vansmack wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
are we doing another survivor/knockout football pool?

i certainly hope so - hey smackie?


Survival pools have far surpassed fantasy football on my enjoyment scale.  I'll set it up later this week.


bump
BookerT wrote:
is there any reason to leave the draft order random until 30 mins before? you can set it randomly now i believe, might give people a better chance for last minute prep if they know where they are picking.

nope, i didn't know i could do that - learn something new every year.  per your wishes:

1.  Stillwater
2.  Rock N Roll …
3.  We Are Both …
4.  The Ian Curt…
5.  BookerT-Bars
6.  Hoya Paranoia
7.  I Hate Pink …
8.  TBD
9.  Pigskin&Pigt…
10. New Jersey B…
11.  team salty
12.  killsaly
just paid a bit ago…
Well, this is a year where I didn't really want the #1 pick… figures