Elliott Smith R.I.P.

Fico

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 07:45 PM UTC #

Originally posted by broadkat:

hey man, do what you want, but yeah i might get sensitive if you say, say people who admit they have depression who are posting on a thread ABOUT SUICIDE and in bereavement that they have "serious headfucks"….that's just alittle contradictory. but i'm not mad. say what you want. sex up who you want. [/QB]

I guess I'm not up to date on cyber etiquette… to me it's just pretty weird the way people here seem to open up to strangers… and from what I've seen happen here things easily backfire… take Rhett for example..he came in here boasting about being a sexual libertine and what not.. when his own comments started getting back at him he couldn't take it… i think it's great to share your feelings, im just not sure if sharing it with everyone is a good idea…some people might use your confessions to their own interests… I am convinced there are sick people in here who would take someone's comment on this board and play it up as a "connection" to someone else just to get on their pants or something like that… cos yes, if you spend your days and specially your weekends socializing through this place you've got problems… be that extreme shyness, lack of social skills, etc.. maybe I'm not making any sense but I'm still baffled how people can substitute a keyboard and screen full of strangers over "normal" interaction with other homosapiens, mammals, Rhetts and Celestes out there…

Fico

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 07:47 PM UTC #

Originally posted by ggw™:

Originally posted by Fico:
epitomal
Fico, meet Dictionary.

Dictionary, meet Fico.

Thank you almighty Gay George W.

Rhett Miller

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:14 PM UTC #

No doubt Webster's is YOUR favorite dickionary.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:

Originally posted by Fico:
epitomal
Fico, meet Dictionary.

Dictionary, meet Fico.

bags

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:15 PM UTC #

(1) I think the whole reason folks may open up about some things on here is that it's faceless; it's easier to vent a bit to strangers and get some objective feedback, or do what you can to fill someone in on some things they seem to be ignorant about….

(2) Activity on this board in no way leads to the assumption that posters have no social lives. I have a hell of a social life, lots of friends, I get out most nights, etc. I came here to find out about the local live music scene, and lo and behold I found I'm really damn opinionated. And with that being the case, this is a cool place to vent.

(3) In every area of my life I tend to be overly open about what's going on with me, what I'm about, etc. And that may lead to someone blasting me on things they learn here. But, unlike some board members, I try really, really hard not to criticize anyone on a personal level (like calling them a stupid ignorant jack ass for going to a Justin Timberlake show). While I'll chime in with my opinion, I'll bet you don't find me attacking anyone. And in return, I doubt I'll ever be attacked (in a way I would take personally or seriously) on this board.

I hear what you're saying Fico. I think you're actually taking this all too seriously yourself. And it's like t.v. – if you find a thread boring or overly familiar, just don't read that one.

Originally posted by Fico:

Originally posted by broadkat:

hey man, do what you want, but yeah i might get sensitive if you say, say people who admit they have depression who are posting on a thread ABOUT SUICIDE and in bereavement that they have "serious headfucks"….that's just alittle contradictory. but i'm not mad. say what you want. sex up who you want.

I guess I'm not up to date on cyber etiquette… to me it's just pretty weird the way people here seem to open up to strangers… and from what I've seen happen here things easily backfire… take Rhett for example..he came in here boasting about being a sexual libertine and what not.. when his own comments started getting back at him he couldn't take it… i think it's great to share your feelings, im just not sure if sharing it with everyone is a good idea…some people might use your confessions to their own interests… I am convinced there are sick people in here who would take someone's comment on this board and play it up as a "connection" to someone else just to get on their pants or something like that… cos yes, if you spend your days and specially your weekends socializing through this place you've got problems… be that extreme shyness, lack of social skills, etc.. maybe I'm not making any sense but I'm still baffled how people can substitute a keyboard and screen full of strangers over "normal" interaction with other homosapiens, mammals, Rhetts and Celestes out there… [/QB]

Venerable Bede

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:17 PM UTC #

i haven't seen this posted, but has anyone seen the end of those girls gone wild commercials? the point being that, should you want to mail a check to buy one of those vids, the addressee is GGW video. do you like photography??? wink wink nudge nudge

chaz

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:19 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
i haven't seen this posted, but has anyone seen the end of those girls gone wild commercials? the point being that, should you want to mail a check to buy one of those vids, the addressee is GGW video. do you like photography??? wink wink nudge nudge

GGW - How well do you know Snoop Doggy Dogg? What was it like working with him?

Rhett Miller

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:31 PM UTC #

…except for fanning the flames of threads gone by with snotty comments on how it's a good thing Rhett and Celeste took each other off the market…

…but I'm glad that you have been the perfect angel since then…

Originally posted by Bagster:
[(3) In every area of my life I tend to be overly open about what's going on with me, what I'm about, etc. And that may lead to someone blasting me on things they learn here. But, unlike some board members, I try really, really hard not to criticize anyone on a personal level (like calling them a stupid ignorant jack ass for going to a Justin Timberlake show). While I'll chime in with my opinion, I'll bet you don't find me attacking anyone. And in return, I doubt I'll ever be attacked (in a way I would take personally or seriously) on this board.

bags

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:34 PM UTC #

Yup, you're right, I was appalled at the porky midget shit and "we think so alike" garbage.

But all in all, my comment was AWFULLY mild. I wouldn't even want to go back and look at some/many of your postings.

But the Robbie Fulks folks have taken you in and….oh, and found you to be quite intolerant in most cases.

Rhett Miller

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:39 PM UTC #

Except for the ones who shoot me private messages saying, "I'm so glad you said that…I've always thought that, but was too chicken to say it."

What's wrong with thinking like your partner? Don't you and your significant other think alike?

Originally posted by Bagster:

But the Robbie Fulks folks have taken you in and….oh, and found you to be quite intolerant in most cases.

Rhett Miller

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:42 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Except for the ones who shoot me private messages saying, "I'm so glad you said that…I've always thought that, but was too chicken to say it."

What's wrong with thinking like your partner? Don't you and your significant other think alike?

And I guess you're basically saying that if I made the mistake of making a joke about someone (not you)that was in poor taste, then you're allowed to attack me back personally?

Originally posted by Bagster:

But the Robbie Fulks folks have taken you in and….oh, and found you to be quite intolerant in most cases.

bags

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:44 PM UTC #

It's not thinking like your partner, it's being mean like your partner. I guess you're right, you would want someone equally mean to mate with.

And I'm done. Regardless of what you may think, I refuse to be part of the overall Rhett bashing or re-hashing.

Rhett Miller

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 08:52 PM UTC #

Ok, we both stated before that we were sorry for what was said.

You were not there when it was said….it was said online. As we have stated numerous times, it was not our intention to be "mean." What we said may have been insensitive, but it was not "mean". I think that is your interpretation, which I guess you are entitled too. I'll be if you hung out with us at all, you'd find that we may not be the most pc people, but we're certainly not mean.

Certainly not mean in the same way that people have spewed venom on this board at me. Certainly not mean in a way that someone would post our home address on this board. Certainly not mean in a way that every time there is a chance to make some sort of lame-ass fag joke on this board, certain board members will reach out and mock me.

Where are you when it comes to criticizing the meanness that has been directed my way, Ms. Bags?

Originally posted by Bagster:
It's not thinking like your partner, it's being mean like your partner. I guess you're right, you would want someone equally mean to mate with.

And I'm done. Regardless of what you may think, I refuse to be part of the overall Rhett bashing or re-hashing.

Fico

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 09:05 PM UTC #

I will confess to laughing me arse off at the porky midget comment…I've been wanting to throw it at someone ever since..

Rhett, I missed the post with your home address…I was thinking of sending an e-greeting but since it's no mystery where should I mail this year's xmas card?

bags

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 09:10 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Certainly not mean in the same way that people have spewed venom on this board at me. Certainly not mean in a way that someone would post our home address on this board.

Originally posted by Bagster:
And I'm done. Regardless of what you may think, I refuse to be part of the overall Rhett bashing or re-hashing.

That is horrendous. I didn't see that, because I stopped following that thread as it got really nasty. You're right, I haven't criticized that, but I did withdraw from it. That is so, so wrong – hell, I'm worried that your picture's online, but you seem okay with it as you've posted links to other sites.

I think that some of the other "venom" you talk about, as it's happening among regulars, I kind of ignore and chalk up to the way y'all communicate. The initial 'issue' was with a completely new user who I didn't think would understand the way the board works sometimes.

But you're right, Rhett. If it's wrong it's wrong. As a bit of a newbie myself, compared to the cadre of regulars, I thought the jibing was more light-hearted among yourselves.

Internet communication does weird things to folks. I really just want to know if it's worth checking out The Decemberists at Black Cat or Arlo at Velvet Lounge!

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 09:16 PM UTC #

Sniff, sniff…
Oh, St. "Bagster", you are too, too good…though I just have not been the same since you made fun of my hairy pits. Still I will be kind and advise you to see Arlo. I cannot, however, vouch for any of the other bands on the bill.

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 09:19 PM UTC #

Alrighty, fair enough.

I think one of the dangers of saying anything on a chatboard is that there's really no way to interpret how somebody really means something. What maybe be a lighthearted jab can easily interpreted as otherwise.

We saw Arlo at the Bowery Ballroom on Saturday. They only playes a short set, and much of it was unrecorded new stuff. A couple of good new tunes, but all in all I don't think the new stuff measures up to the first two albums (yet). No fisticuffs at this show as was the case when we saw them at Velvet.

The slow songs I've heard by the Decemberists bored me. The fast ones were nice.

School is taking care of any concert decisions we might have had to make.

Originally posted by Bagster:

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Certainly not mean in the same way that people have spewed venom on this board at me. Certainly not mean in a way that someone would post our home address on this board.

Originally posted by Bagster:
And I'm done. Regardless of what you may think, I refuse to be part of the overall Rhett bashing or re-hashing.
That is horrendous. I didn't see that, because I stopped following that thread as it got really nasty. You're right, I haven't criticized that, but I did withdraw from it. That is so, so wrong – hell, I'm worried that your picture's online, but you seem okay with it as you've posted links to other sites.

I think that some of the other "venom" you talk about, as it's happening among regulars, I kind of ignore and chalk up to the way y'all communicate. The initial 'issue' was with a completely new user who I didn't think would understand the way the board works sometimes.

But you're right, Rhett. If it's wrong it's wrong. As a bit of a newbie myself, compared to the cadre of regulars, I thought the jibing was more light-hearted among yourselves.

Internet communication does weird things to folks. I really just want to know if it's worth checking out The Decemberists at Black Cat or Arlo at Velvet Lounge!

ggw

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 09:22 PM UTC #

It's too bad that the original thread was deleted or we could see where Rhett said that if somebody "grated on" him and his wife, they were entitled to "grate" that person back.

But then when Rhett grates on others and they follow Rhett's advice and give it right back to Rhett, he casts himself as some poor undeserving victim of mean-spiritedness.

If the original thread were still extant we could also see that Rhett called the original poster a "whiny little bitch" despite the fact that the only one whining and bitching was (and still is) Rhett.

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 09:24 PM UTC #

While it may not be the popular opinion around this message board, I'm glad that Rhett and Celeste appear to be posting again. I probably don't agree with 75% of what they say, but at least they make it interesting. So they push a few buttons? It's not like we don't have others who try to do the same.

By the way you two, what was it about the Shins performance that didn't live up to the albums? Just curious…

Rhett Miller

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 09:25 PM UTC #

What was the purpose of your posting my home address, you sanctimonious prick?

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
It's too bad that the original thread was deleted or we could see where Rhett said that if somebody "grated on" him and his wife, they were entitled to "grate" that person back.

But then when Rhett grates on others and they follow Rhett's advice and give it right back to Rhett, he casts himself as some poor undeserving victim of mean-spiritedness.

If the original thread were still extant we could also see that Rhett called the original poster a "whiny little bitch" despite the fact that the only one whining and bitching was (and still is) Rhett.

ggw

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Re: Elliott Smith R.I.P. October 28, 2003 at 09:28 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
What was the purpose of your posting my home address, you sanctimonious prick?

I posted an address with no association to whom that address belonged.

Good job on letting everyone know that it is your address.