Marathon Tips?

I've puked several times at the end of marathons. I wonder why it's always after finishing and not during?

I f'd up my back a couple of months ago sledding. The 7-9 mile easy runs I was doing two months ago have now become slow, painful slogs. Might be time to see a doctor.

Ummmm, yeah.  You could just need a good PT and sports massage therapist.

'A small body of research suggests that heart problems may arise not in spite of extreme-endurance exercise but because of it. That has led some cardiologists to theorize that, beyond a certain point, exercise stops preventing and starts causing heart disease.

…found that 50 men who had run at least one marathon a year for 25 years had higher levels of coronary-artery plaque than a control group of sedentary men. A British Medical Journal study published this year compared the carotid arteries of 42 Boston Marathon qualifiers with their much-less active spouses. "We hypothesized that the runners would have a more favourable atherosclerotic risk profile," says the article. As it turned out, that hypothesis was wrong.'

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303949704579461381883678174?mod=e2fb

Shemp wrote:
…found that 50 men who had run at least one marathon a year for 25 years had higher levels of coronary-artery plaque than a control group of sedentary men. A British Medical Journal study published this year compared the carotid arteries of 42 Boston Marathon qualifiers with their much-less active spouses. "We hypothesized that the runners would have a more favourable atherosclerotic risk profile," says the article. As it turned out, that hypothesis was wrong.'

Wait a minute.

They compared men who run marathons with their wives, and determined that men have worse arteries?  It makes absolutely no sense to compare men and women.

Maybe a better control would have been active brothers to their less active brother?

No need to bring race into this.

Men are much more likely to have diet similar to their wives than less active brothers (?)

Then again men will have genetics more closely aligned with their less active brother than with their wife.

vansmack wrote:

Shemp wrote:
…found that 50 men who had run at least one marathon a year for 25 years had higher levels of coronary-artery plaque than a control group of sedentary men. A British Medical Journal study published this year compared the carotid arteries of 42 Boston Marathon qualifiers with their much-less active spouses. "We hypothesized that the runners would have a more favourable atherosclerotic risk profile," says the article. As it turned out, that hypothesis was wrong.'

Wait a minute.

They compared men who run marathons with their wives, and determined that men have worse arteries?  It makes absolutely no sense to compare men and women.

Maybe a better control would have been active brothers to their less active brother?

James wrote:
Then again men will have genetics more closely aligned with their less active brother than with their wife.

I was going for that and the fact that mens and womens hearts are not identical.

Shemp wrote:
'A small body of research suggests that heart problems may arise not in spite of extreme-endurance exercise but because of it. That has led some cardiologists to theorize that, beyond a certain point, exercise stops preventing and starts causing heart disease.

…found that 50 men who had run at least one marathon a year for 25 years had higher levels of coronary-artery plaque than a control group of sedentary men. A British Medical Journal study published this year compared the carotid arteries of 42 Boston Marathon qualifiers with their much-less active spouses. "We hypothesized that the runners would have a more favourable atherosclerotic risk profile," says the article. As it turned out, that hypothesis was wrong.'

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303949704579461381883678174?mod=e2fb

NPR published an article the very next day citing a study that evaluated men's cardiovascular risk, both before and after training for a marathon.  Conclusion:  Running is good for you

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/03/27/295252726/marathon-training-lowers-heart-disease-risk-in-middle-aged-men

Xray results are in. Small compression fracture of spine. I guess that explains why it's painful for me to run.

James wrote:



I've puked several times at the end of marathons. I wonder why it's always after finishing and not during?

I f'd up my back a couple of months ago sledding. The 7-9 mile easy runs I was doing two months ago have now become slow, painful slogs. Might be time to see a doctor.

Ouch!  What's the prognosis?  Hope you feel better soon.

Hey gang, sorry for the spam/sob story, but it looks like I'll be running the Chicago Marathon this year with Team Fox, the Michael J. Fox Foundation?s (MJFF) grassroots community fundraising program, which generates funds and awareness for Parkinson?s disease research.

Pretty stoked, not just to run another race (it's been a few years), but also since my father-in-law had Parkinson's, so it's an insane honor to have the chance to make a small difference here, especially in light of everything my wife's family has done for me over the years.

If you're so inclined, please feel free to donate to a good cause; you can find my donation page here: http://www2.michaeljfox.org/goto/aobehr. ; I'm trying to raise $2,000 and thanks mostly to family & friends, have already hit the 50% mark in a day, so your contributions would be most appreciated as well.

And if not, thanks to this board for actually giving me the support to run my first marathon way back in 2007 (man, I forgot this thread was actually mine originally).  All of those tips were a big help both other marathon's I've run.

Thanks!
Andy

I will support!  Everyone has been really cool about supporting me on this board!

Of course.

You guys are seriously the best.

Gearing up for Marine Corps Marathon this weekend - who's in?

are there marines with no shirts on . . . oh id be all over that.

I'm in! Hoping to redeem myself after a total breakdown miles 14-20 last weekend at Baltimore. Went out too fast. Too much adrenaline at the beginning.

But, I finally broke 5 hours, despite the total meltdown.

Not that a total stranger's story can serve as inspiration, but…

A few years ago I did marathons three weeks apart. The first one I had a total meltdown, did a lot of walking, and had a terrible time.

Three weeks later, I came back and ran a kick ass Marine Corps Marathon.

You can do it!

K8teebug wrote:
I'm in! Hoping to redeem myself after a total breakdown miles 14-20 last weekend at Baltimore. Went out too fast. Too much adrenaline at the beginning.

But, I finally broke 5 hours, despite the total meltdown.

Sounds like we're in the same boat - I missed a PR at Wineglass 3 weeks ago, and I may just have to race MCM.  I had originally thought it was going to be a fun run….

Looks like there could be a decent headwind coming out of Hains Point.  My plan is to find a…larger runner, and draft behind him (or her) until we turn towards the tidal basin.  I used this strategy in 2012 when Hurricane Sandy kicked up the winds, and it really worked.  It also kind of forces a "rest" and gives you time to think about race strategy.

Have a great race!

I like the drafting idea.  I'll be behind you behind the person you're drafting off.