The Shortlist

Most people hadn't heard of Franz Ferdinand until a few months ago, because they had never put out an album until 8 months ago. Duh!

Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by bellenseb:
True that. I guess I'm disappointed that the finalists are so predictable, or perhaps that bands as well known and media-lavished as Wilco and FF were even options.
Whuh? Most people hadn't heard of Franz Ferdinand until a few months ago. But, then again, perhaps the shortlist is predictable because they were genuinely great albums?

Air â?? TALKIE WALKIE (Astralwerks)
Dizzee Rascal â?? BOY IN DA CORNER (Matador/XL)
Franz Ferdinand â?? FRANZ FERDINAND (Domino/Epic)
Ghostface Killah â?? THE PRETTY TONEY ALBUM (Def Jam)
The Killers â?? HOT FUSS (Island)
Loretta Lynn â?? VAN LEAR ROSE (Interscope)
Nellie McKay â?? GET AWAY FROM ME (Columbia)
The Streets â?? A GRAND DONâ??T COME FOR FREE (Vice)
TV On the Radio â?? DESPERATE YOUTH, BLOODTHIRSTY BABES (Touch & Go)
Wilco â?? A GHOST IS BORN (Nonesuch)
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Most people hadn't heard of Franz Ferdinand until a few months ago, because they had never put out an album until 8 months ago. Duh!


Brilliant.
I think the Killers should win this one.

or maybe its some sick infatuation with this album as of late…

shit, i told myself not to tell anyone i like this disc…..
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I think the Killers should win this one.


shit, i told myself not to tell anyone i like this disc…..
Just quoting ya in case you decide to delete your words. ;)
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I think the Killers should win this one.


shit, i told myself not to tell anyone i like this disc…..
Just quoting ya in case you decide to delete your words. ;)
thanks damnit.
My point being that indeed they HAVE been lavished with media attention in the months since the album was released.

Originally posted by Random Citizen:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Most people hadn't heard of Franz Ferdinand until a few months ago, because they had never put out an album until 8 months ago. Duh!


Brilliant.
I'm sticking by my words that Keb Mo should be shot, and Nellie McKay will win.
It's just amusing that the shortlist is essentially what the likes of Norah Jones think is "underground".
Once upon a time, Norah Jones WAS underground.

I'll bet she has a great record collection.

Originally posted by bellenseb:
It's just amusing that the shortlist is essentially what the likes of Norah Jones think is "underground".
well if any band deserves the "exposure" of this "award" TVOTR is it…
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I'm sticking by my words that Keb Mo should be shot, and Nellie McKay will win.
are you trying to kill ANOTHEr black man, Grand Wizard Rhett?
;)
Originally posted by Random Citizen:
TV on the Radio wins the Shortlist 2004 Award
glad to hear it. TV on the Radio is very deserving. Can't wait to see them open for Pixies.
that song "New Health Rock" sounds like Outkast.

just an observation.
Disagreement Puts Shortlist Prize On Hold

November 14, 2005, 3:50 PM ET

In its four-year history, the Shortlist Music Prize has become a coveted industry honor, shining a spotlight on artists who have made exceptional albums that have fallen under the mainstream radar. But its future remains in doubt as its creators wrangle over the future of the organization.

Usually given out in Los Angeles in the fall, the Shortlist prize will not be awarded this year. Instead, co-founder Tom Sarig has a new award to replace it: the New Pantheon, which, like the Shortlist, will be determined by an eclectic jury of musicians, performers and journalists.

"I thought starting with a new entity with a sort of bolder initiative would be a fresh way to do it," Sarig said. Among the celebrity judges for the award are Dave Matthews, Elton John, Keith Urban, Shirley Manson, actor Elijah Wood and Ahmir "?uestlove" Thompson of the Roots.

"The idea is very similar. It's shining a light on an honoring the most creative and most artistic records of the new year," Sarig said.

The former MCA executive, who's now a manager and label consultant, said the interests of himself and co-founder Greg Spotts had changed and they had mutually, and amicably, decided not to continue Shortlist.

Spotts acknowledged that he has been less involved with music. He's gotten into political commentary, made the 2003 documentary "American Jobs" and is releasing a book about the making of the recent documentary critical of Wal-Mart. Still, he expressed surprise at the new prize and said Shortlist was very much alive.

"The only reason why we haven't put on a Shortlist this year is because Tom and I don't seem to be able to agree on how," he said. "It seems to be just like as bands get more successful, the egos get more complicated to manage. That same process seems to be happening with the management with our company."

The Shortlist Music Prize, created by the pair in 2001, mirrored London's Mercury Prize in that it honored albums that were critically acclaimed but had not achieved widespread commercial success. Those nominated sold less than 500,000 copies, and most acts were more familiar to alternative music fans.

The previous winners were Icelandic band Sigur Ros, Irish singer/songwriter Damien Rice, the Pharrell-fronted hip-hop/rock hybrid, N.E.R.D., and TV On The Radio. Besides the honor, a cash prize of up to $10,000 was awarded.

Over the years, while it helped boost the profile of its nominees and winners, Shortlist also raised its own; just being nominated for a Shortlist gave an artist cache, and last year, the show was broadcast on MTV2 for the first time.

But Sarig said that while the award was well-known within media and industry circles, he wanted it to have more of an impact with the average fan. "We feel a lot of credibility, but we haven't penetrated the consumer world yet and I think with New Pantheon, with the initiatives that I'm planning, we can totally do that," he said, saying he hoped to announce TV, radio and Internet partnerships in the coming weeks.

Spotts said he would take legal action if Sarig went ahead with his plans: "That isn't something that I feel is legally possible for him … you can't compete against a company that you co-own." Sarig said his agreement with Spotts did not include a non-compete clause and he was perfectly within his legal rights to create a new prize.

What both men agree on is that the Shortlist Music Prize will remain in limbo until both agree on its future. "I've tried very, very hard to have a Shortlist this year," Spotts said. "I think it's become an important cultural happening on the calendar."

Sarig said while he was proud of the Shortlist, he didn't want the idea behind it to become lost in its problems. Finalists for the New Pantheon will be announced in December, and the award will be revealed shortly before the Feb. 8 Grammys. "I am more committed to this vision of trying to create a platform for left-of-center music than ever," he said.