No Baseball in DC?

heh… fuck baseball. Why should taxpayers pay to further enrich spoiled fatcats? People talk about the "mystical aspects" and "intangible benefits" of baseball… it's all crap. Learn to like soccer instead.

Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
heh… fuck baseball. Why should taxpayers pay to further enrich spoiled fatcats? People talk about the "mystical aspects" and "intangible benefits" of baseball… it's all crap. Learn to like soccer instead.

well with facts like those I guess I will have to agree

No runny kicky thank you very much.

ain't it great one person is getting blamed for baseball not coming to dc and flap over the stadium… what about the 6 people who voted against the legislation and were against the proposal(s) in the first place. even dc business fat cats were complaining about the extra tax burden to pay for the stadium.

typical knee-jerk reaction without looking at all the facts…

also, a majority of District residents are opposed to the stadium deal… so that one person getting blamed is actually the only person doing her job as a representative.

can we stop saying fat cats, I feel like Mr. Burns is running for office or something

Cropp had two votes in her back pocket, and business leaders were complaining because the City Council asked for extra funds which had to be raised from more taxes, earlier in the day Cropp was quoted as saying she was very happy with the letter from MLB, then she changes her mind, I understand the complaints about a publically financed stadium, I just wish DC city government would not always embarass itself

Cropp knew the facts a long time ago, she should have made it clear that it would take 50% private financing to approve a deal before this late in the process

Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
also, a majority of District residents are opposed to the stadium deal… so that one person getting blamed is actually the only person doing her job as a representative.

Linda Cropp wants to be mayor, she is positioning, I would say alot of the city council members are doing their job as a representative, I bet a higher percentage of people in Jack Evans' district want baseball, he supports it

others, like Fenty, have been against it all along, they are also doing their job, I am not sure what Harold Brazil is doing, probably why he lost

she wants to be mayor by "positioning," which in this case means speaking out for the majority of citizens of the District. Nothing wrong with that that I can see, especially since the Mayor and a handful of fat-cat sports types tried to force this deal down the city's throat.

the fat cats down there in capitol city…

fine if you are happy with politicians who just support things for personal gain, just remember that when she takes a position you dont support

I am so happy to see this shameful deal implode

let some other thoughtless municipality shove this down their taxpayers throats

Originally posted by pollard:
can we stop saying fat cats, I feel like Mr. Burns is running for office or something

i was just thinking the same thing reading this thread…. :)

I never understood this really.

So a professional sports team, with a rich owner comes into town, everybody builds him a nice new stadium for his team to play in….then he charges them ridiculous prices to go to the stadium and any profit he makes off the team he gets to keep all by himself?

i mean, really….is that how it works?

no wonder ppl dont like it…..i still think DC will have its baseball before April.

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I never understood this really.

So a professional sports team, with a rich owner comes into town, everybody builds him a nice new stadium for his team to play in….then he charges them ridiculous prices to go to the stadium and any profit he makes off the team he gets to keep all by himself?

i mean, really….is that how it works?

no wonder ppl dont like it…..i still think DC will have its baseball before April.

basically yeah, but he also pays the city a lease on the stadium, not saying that makes up for the rest, but its not like they play in the stadium for free

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
ain't it great one person is getting blamed for baseball not coming to dc and flap over the stadium… what about the 6 people who voted against the legislation and were against the proposal(s) in the first place. even dc business fat cats were complaining about the extra tax burden to pay for the stadium.

typical knee-jerk reaction without looking at all the facts…

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Tell me about it!

here's a novel idea… how about making the stadium a co-op venture. that way all those people in the region who want the damn thing can pony up and own part of the stadium. it become an investment, and being stadium owners they can negotiate with the baseball team for perks like ticket discounts, etc. oh wait thats to crunchy of an idea for most americans…

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
here's a novel idea… how about making the stadium a co-op venture. that way all those people in the region who want the damn thing can pony up and own part of the stadium. it become an investment, and being stadium owners they can negotiate with the baseball team for perks like ticket discounts, etc. oh wait thats to crunchy of an idea for most americans…

and major league baseball doesnt care, they wont wait around for that to happen, they can go to some other city

Originally posted by pollard:

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
here's a novel idea… how about making the stadium a co-op venture. that way all those people in the region who want the damn thing can pony up and own part of the stadium. it become an investment, and being stadium owners they can negotiate with the baseball team for perks like ticket discounts, etc. oh wait thats to crunchy of an idea for most americans…

and major league baseball doesnt care, they wont wait around for that to happen, they can go to some other city

tell me again why taxpayers should subsidize a fat-cat industry which by your admission "doesn't care?"

I have an idea for a fun sport – every time someone talks about baseball players as "role models," bean them in the head with a fastball.

Originally posted by HerrDoktorDoom:
tell me again why taxpayers should subsidize a fat-cat industry which by your admission "doesn't care?"

I have an idea for a fun sport – every time someone talks about baseball players as "role models," bean them in the head with a fastball.

my main complaint here is how this was handled by the city council, I like baseball, I liked the idea of going to national league games in the city, but I can certainly undertand the complaints about the deal, but I also dont think it is as bad or as good as anybody is saying

anybody who ever thought that major league baseball actually cared has to be crazy, they were looking for the best deal

Originally posted by pollard:
[anybody who ever thought that major league baseball actually cared has to be crazy, they were looking for the best deal

Well fuck 'em. I'm a taxpayer, and I'm looking for the best deal too. And the best deal is no baseball.