any news on hfstival this year?

man i would have loved to see stp at the club…

HFS 95 had to have been the best. Shudder to Think, Archers of Loaf, Juliana Hatfield, Scarce, Hum, Mike Watt and the godamn almighty RAMONES! It was wonderful, right after Soul Asylum (gag) wrapped up their set 30,000 people rushed out of the stadium, I guess they forgot about the Ramones. The cool thing was that the 30,000 or so that were left were all really into the Ramones set. The Space Ghost intoduction made it even more perfect. Too bad they didn't get to play a full headlining set, but I got to see them one other time before they called it quits.<p>[This message has been edited by sarcastro (edited 03-29-2002).]

I used to listen to HFS exclusively for about 10 years then they turned into a teenie bopper station about 5 years ago or so….zapped it right off my memory button. The festival went down the poo-hole at the same time (IMHO) The station sucks bigtime and it's a shame because it used to be brill….I miss the festival but the line- ups are witness to how sucky they are…can't get any decent bands to show up anymore (again IMHO). The last one I attended had Beck in the line-up which was the last straw for me……watch them have a good line up this year just to make me look like a lier..<BR>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mankie:<BR><B>The last one I attended had Beck in the line-up which was the last straw for me……<BR> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Not a Beck fan, I take it?<P>The first one I went to was in 95, with Primus, the Ramones, and all the other good bands people mentioned. I went the following two (or three) years for free, and man, even that wasn't worth it. In fact, the only reason I went to the last one was to see Beck. Spent the rest of the day pissed off and too hot for my own good…

Massive Festival concerts are not my thing. Just too much of a bitch to have to put up with. Besides, HFS has sold out to the teeny booper baby punk crowd both on air and at the Festival. The concerts are only keeping inline with their fan base, which is really how it should be. Too bad that they don't care about what we want to see or hear. We're all just hoping and praying that they or some other powerful station will put out something good in the Indie vein.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>It's so sexy when men talk about how they were "blown away" by someone's performance, as if a concert were supposed to be some sort of Scwartzeneger movie, or perhaps a porn movie.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>Rhett, honestly, I'm really starting to wonder about you. Just when I think that you've settled down, you spring another one on us. <BR>

I wouldn't miss HFS for anything. And to tell the truth, I'm not too keen on the HFS "sounds". But for one low price, I get a chance to experience these bands that others are talking about and see for myself. I just look at the nutcracker in December. I basically went to see Coldplay again, and my wife likes Pete Yorn's sound. But in the meantime we saw Blink, System of a Down, Puddle of Mudd, Nickelback, and a few others. I don't care for most of those bands probably because I don't have a nose ring and don't wear black eye shadow, but for about 4 bucks a band….? Same with the outdoor show. So when some young punk asks me about this band or that band (referring to me being "over the hill"), I can say "yeah, I saw them." For that reason, it's worth it certainly.

It's amazing what crap people will buy. System of a Down? Puddle of Mud? Come on!

i'm gonna have to disagree with you there rhett miller on system of a down(but not puddle of mud). i know hfs plays a lot of crap. heck, i'll even say the majority of music they play is crap. but the bands that they do play that i think do deserve the credit and accolades is system of a down. these guys are head and shoulders above all these bands in my opinion. these guys will still 5 years down the road be making great music. and you can't really group them into the whole rap-rock nu metal fad b/c they're unlike anything else i've heard out there. just curious and don't bite my head off or anything for saying this, but have you actually heard any other songs besides chop suey and toxicity? the rest of their album is amazing and their self titled album is better. if you did listen to it and you still think its crap, then fine. i won't bother you anymore on this topic.

Maybe it's just an age difference thing, And. I was listening to loud, unmelodic stuff like Ministry when I was 21. I was saying the same things about them that you say about System. Now that I'm close to 35, it's just painful to my ears. How old are you? I bet you won't be listening to your System of a Down cd's when you're 35.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller<BR><B>I was listening to loud, unmelodic stuff like Ministry when I was 21.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And when you were 21, what was your opinion of 35 year old alt-country fans who told you Ministry was crap?<P>I actually agree with you on those bands, but I also agree with myuman's point about getting to see bands that you wouldn't normally go see. I saw Limp Bizkit at the '99 festival, and while I despise their music and all that they represent, at least I can say I saw them with their flaming turntables and all. If that's what somepeople are into, that's their choice.

Andy, just be happy (for whatever reason you choose) that you, Rhett and I won't be fighting for the same tickets. I will agree that System of a Down are better than Puddle of Mud, but I would not play a free CD myself. Just not my taste. If I do run across any freebies, I'll keep you in mind. Doubt if we'll be at the same shows though. That's okay, we both deserve a chance to see each of our faves.

THe "alt-country" genre tag didn't even exist 15 years ago. When I was 21, I was listening to Steve Earle, Jason and the Scorchers, Lucinda Williams, etc (what would later be called alt-country) right along side Ministry, NIN, Front 242, etc. And to be honest, I didn't really know any 35 year olds, though I so so desperately longed for a more experienced, older girlfriend to teach me the path to musical ecstasy.

Good ol' Harold and Maude.

hmmmmmm, I would rather hold on to my money and not have to sit through bands that I can't stand. That seems pretty silly to me. If you don't like their videos or radio songs, why would you want to fork over your hard cash just to be able to tell some young'n you saw Tantric? I'd rather go see bands I want to see, especially if the ticket price is so high. If you only go to see live bands two or three times a year I guess its not so insane, but still, why shell out good money to be miserable?

Funny you should mention that Thirsty. I've actually had a number of people in my llifetime tell me I look like Bud Cort, who played Harold and Maude. Thankfully, my girlfriend doesn't look like Ruth Gordon.

true, true. i'm 21 and when i'm 35, i probably won't be listening to my old system of a down cd's or even what the kids at that time are listening to. i guess age is already catching up to me b/c i can't stand all the korn's, papa roach's and linkin park's that all the kiddies are into these days. system of a down is just one of the few "new" (soad has been around since 97 i think) bands that i really like. i like them because they actually have a lead singer who can sing, doesn't rap, and deliver great messages (issues like history of armenian genocide to the injustices of the prison system-not ratm political but still active). they don't have any "poor me i was abused as a kid" songs which makes most acts these days seem to focus on. instead of listening to these new bands, i'm getting into more old school punk like ramones, black flag, clash, minor threat, etc. by the way, ministry is great.

Money and work are a bitch! I miss too many shows I WANT to see because of these and a few other reasons and I'm not about to pay to see mostly bands I have no interest in. If I had free tickets, I may show up just for the heck of it and maybe be surprised. Yes, good points were made for that. It's the same when I go to see a band I like and someone I don't plays with them. Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised or can at least force myself to appreciate the musicianship or the efforts and energies. <P>What's much worse is when you pay good money to see someone you really like and the show sucks!

It won't be long until the HFStival is costing $50 and the headliner is P.O.D<P>Oh well, im saving my money Luckily I have 3 weeks of touring with STP to look forward to.

How'd you swing this STPMatt?