Yet Another Just Announced Commetary Thread

sweetcell wrote:

James wrote:
The same guy who got multiple orders of Strathmore tickets also got multiple tickets for the National show and tickets to all the other Wilco shows.

you are aware this this isn't one person, but the website is part of a network of scalpers, right?  it's not this "colin" personally bought all these tickets… its dozens of colins in several cities that all bought tickets, and have agreements to list on each other's sites.  they get a cut of the sale if they sell another scalper's tickets.

You seem to know quite a bit about this. Which are the two your wife grabbed? Is your name not "sweetcell", but really "Colin"?

ha - if i was "colin", do you think i'd be blabbing about my business model on this board?  i got that link by clicking the "ticket network direct" icon on the bottom left of "colin's" website.  obviously this means i'm on the inside  ::)

i know a bit about scalping - "know your enemy".  in this case, it appears that i'm being indicted for knowing something.  anybody who has ever researched satanism is automatically a satanist, right? 

James wrote:

wml7 wrote:
Looks like Wilco for the National is sold out too hmmm I didn't think it would go that quick as they usually don't sell out shows there instantly.

Well you're in luck. The same guy who got multiple orders of Strathmore tickets also got multiple tickets for the National show and tickets to all the other Wilco shows.

They can be yours for $315 Floor or $195 GA here:

ahahaha who would actually pay those prcies??  And they are selling for two different price points when the whole show itself is GA.  WOW  :o

sweetcell wrote:
ha - if i was "colin", do you think i'd be blabbing about my business model on this board?  i got that link by clicking the "ticket network direct" icon on the bottom left of "colin's" website.  obviously this means i'm on the inside  ::)

i know a bit about scalping - "know your enemy".  in this case, it appears that i'm being indicted for knowing something.  anybody who has ever researched satanism is automatically a satanist, right? 

So Colin, are you saying you're also a satanist? First Jack Black, and now you?

wml7 wrote:
And they are selling for two different price points when the whole show itself is GA.  WOW  :o

again, it's because at least one of those listing is from another scalper… so "colin" doesn't control the pricing, he's merely re-posting another person's prices.

James wrote:

sweetcell wrote:
ha - if i was "colin", do you think i'd be blabbing about my business model on this board?  i got that link by clicking the "ticket network direct" icon on the bottom left of "colin's" website.  obviously this means i'm on the inside  ::)

i know a bit about scalping - "know your enemy".  in this case, it appears that i'm being indicted for knowing something.  anybody who has ever researched satanism is automatically a satanist, right? 

So Colin, are you saying you're also a satanist? First Jack Black, and now you?

lol.  i like where this is going :)  (at least i'm in the company of jack black - could have been tom cruise!)

How much did you charge for tickets to this, Colin?

And which one are you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63fVjdy7bLA

James wrote:
How much did you charge for tickets to this, Colin?

And which one are you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63fVjdy7bLA

notice . . . all they do is play paint ball and smoke cigarettes; two things satan created.  they are living the vida loca.

azaghal1981 wrote:
I doubt they'll play the club after that Shins fiasco.

is this in regards to the spoon @ national announcement?  if so, care to refresh my memory about the "shins fiasco"?

sweetcell wrote:

azaghal1981 wrote:
I doubt they'll play the club after that Shins fiasco.

is this in regards to the spoon @ national announcement?  if so, care to refresh my memory about the "shins fiasco"?

Basically, Spoon was booked to play the 930 Club, but cancelled to open for the Shins at Merriweather instead.

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:

sweetcell wrote:

azaghal1981 wrote:
I doubt they'll play the club after that Shins fiasco.

is this in regards to the spoon @ national announcement?  if so, care to refresh my memory about the "shins fiasco"?

Basically, Spoon was booked to play the 930 Club, but cancelled to open for the Shins at Merriweather instead.

Your short reply doesn't really answer to question of why they wouldn't play the 9:30 again.

And wasn't Seth responsible for cancelling the 9:30 show and putting them on the Shins bill? I doubt it was Spoon's idea.

James wrote:

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:

sweetcell wrote:

azaghal1981 wrote:
I doubt they'll play the club after that Shins fiasco.

is this in regards to the spoon @ national announcement?  if so, care to refresh my memory about the "shins fiasco"?

Basically, Spoon was booked to play the 930 Club, but cancelled to open for the Shins at Merriweather instead.

Your short reply doesn't really answer to question of why they wouldn't play the 9:30 again.

And wasn't Seth responsible for cancelling the 9:30 show and putting them on the Shins bill? I doubt it was Spoon's idea.

No, it didn't. But I also think they will play the Club again, so I couldn't answer that question if I tried.

Weren't Spoon supposed to play 2 nights at the 930, then both got canceled when they got added to the Shins bill at Merriweather, then people complained, then a 930 show was on again for the next day and the people who had tickets to the Shins show got in free. Then people speculate to this day that they'll never play the 930 again. The end.

sweetcell wrote:

azaghal1981 wrote:
I doubt they'll play the club after that Shins fiasco.

is this in regards to the spoon @ national announcement?  if so, care to refresh my memory about the "shins fiasco"?

There was more to it than that.

Yes, IMP canceled the 930 show and put Spoon on the Shins MPP bill. They then booked Spoon to play a show at the club the next night but the admission to the 930 show had something to do  with some sort of convoluted idea that involved buying tickets to the Shins show…the details of which I'm a little foggy on.

They then listed the Spoon show as "sold out" and didn't sell tickets to it but the turnout to the Spoon show at the club was very low because not many ticket holders from the previous night showed up.

Wasn't it that Spoon 930 ticket holders got free lawn tickets (or reduced pavilion tickets) to the Shins show. Then anyone with a Shins ticket, or an original Spoon ticket got in free to the next night's Spoon at 930 Club show?

That sounds right.

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
Wasn't it that Spoon 930 ticket holders got free lawn tickets (or reduced pavilion tickets) to the Shins show. Then anyone with a Shins ticket, or an original Spoon ticket got in free to the next night's Spoon at 930 Club show?

It was all something like what all was noted above.

My guess is that Spoon learned 2 important things from all this nonsense.

1. They have a lot of fans in DC.
2. Those same fans want to see them at the 9:30 Club. Period!

Of course, we have no idea what went on with the inner workings of that 'fiasco' but I would suspect that, in the end, if Spoon want to play DC, they will make sure it's at the 9:30 Club. ….Or maybe DC just won't be a 'natural stop' for them anymore on their tours. I would supsect that both camps would do their best to try to make amends and get on with things and Spoon will make a stop at the Club.

Spoon was on the front page of yesterday's NY Times Arts section.  I bet they play DAR.

twas a combination of all of this.

They had two nights booked at the club - a monday and tuesday.  Mind you, I don't know about the inner workings at IMP or who did what, but since IMP was promoting both those shows and the Shins at Merriweather  on that same Monday, I think the promoter thought it would be better to add them to the Shins bill, convinced them of that and then didn't have two, conflicting indie rock shows.

They set up a deal where you could (1) get a refund of your tix to the 9:30 club show, (2) exchange the 9:30 tix for a lawn seat to the Shins show, or (3) exchange your 9:30 club ticket and pay for an upgrade to the pavilion for the Shins show.

Fans got upset.  I, for one, couldn't go to a show on Monday, and wouldn't trek up to Merriweather for a lawn seat for a band that was perfectly suited to the Club, but NOT to Merriweather.  I'm sure people had lots of other reasons.  Britt personally apologized to the fans by posting on DCist and promised to get it sorted out.

The sorting out meant that Spoon WOULD play the club on Tuesday.  To get into the show, you either could give them (1) your original 9:30 club ticket to see Spoon or (2) your pavilion ticket to the Shins show.  They did not sell new tickets for the Tuesday show.  This seemed backwards since some people might have just opted for a refund, some people exchanged tickets for lawn seats but didn't upgrade to pavilion, and some people never got to buy tickets to the 9:30 shows in the first place, and didn't want to have to buy a pavilion seat for a show they didn't want to or couldn't go to just to go to the show on Tuesday.

So then they said okay anyone with a ticket to the Shins show could come to the Tuesday club show.  They listed it as sold out.  They expected more people would show up than they could let in.  I mean, Merriweather holds way more ppl than the 9:30 Club.

So, from what I heard, Spoon's set at Merriweather wasn't very good.  They sounded bad, the venue wasn't the right venue for them, but alas, there they were.  

And then on Tuesday, even though the show was Sold Out and people got in line at 2pm because they were sure there would be 2,000 people trying to get in, the club was only 2/3 full for the Spoon show, which was absolutely fantastic btw.

The band was probably disappointed in the whole thing.  I wouldn't expect them to work with IMP again if they think IMP handled the whole thing poorly.

Of course, this is just based on what I remember and is from an outsider's perspective.  I'm sure there's more to it than that, but it was a mess.

I'm not sure where else in DC they could play, though.  Their show the following April at Sonar was AMAZING, though.  Maybe there…

Spoon played GW last Spring, but it was a rich kids only affair.

i remember this "fiasco", didn't realize it was that complicated.

MonkeyPants wrote:
I wouldn't expect them to work with IMP again if they think IMP handled the whole thing poorly.

 
dunno about that… IMP is the biggest game in town, short of playing a theater (DAR!)  or some other non-regular musical venue (a gym, etc). 

these kinds of negative experiences can be ironed out, and it might be in the band's best interest to work with IMP.  they're probably in a good position to get a good deal, or at least superior treatment, from 930/IMP.  i doubt 930/IMP would want a second fiasco on their hands…