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James wrote:
No, i'm not as much of a self-righteous douche as doctor doom.

i swear i'm being objective when i say that in the context of this particular debate, your above statement is highly debatable ;D

My decision to live outside of DC comes down to one thing, and one thing only.  Sub-standard public schools.  I've been raising two kids by myself on a single income for the past 2 or so years.  So shelling out the cash for private schools is out of the question.  And rolling the dice on getting into one of the better charter schools is also out of the question.

That said, we've been really happy in Arlington, and now Falls Church in a neighborhood that is probably 50/50 latino/white.   I'm getting married in October, so for the first time in a long time I'm now enjoying a two income home…but we are staying put. 

For me, and for everyone else, either location has it's ups and downs.  But for ME, all things considered, the burbs are the better fit.

To each their own.  If I had no kids, I'd most certainly not live where I am, but if that were the case I probably would have left the area altogether quite some time ago.

PS - If I were a city dweller I'd still no doubt have a car.  I lived without one until I was almost 30 years old, so clearly I know it can be done.  But I like road trips and self-reliance, so I need that flexibility in my life.

i.e. I agree with Doctor Doom's opinion.

sweetcell wrote:

James wrote:
No, i'm not as much of a self-righteous douche as doctor doom.

i swear i'm being objective when i say that in the context of this particular debate, your above statement is highly debatable ;D

"I don't really see what your point is… where you're living is still boring as shit and requires a car to do anything.  To each their own, but not for me, ever!"

chaz wrote:
My decision to live outside of DC comes down to one thing, and one thing only.  Sub-standard public schools.  I've been raising two kids by myself on a single income for the past 2 or so years.  So shelling out the cash for private schools is out of the question.  And rolling the dice on getting into one of the better charter schools is also out of the question.

That said, we've been really happy in Arlington, and now Falls Church in a neighborhood that is probably 50/50 latino/white.   I'm getting married in October, so for the first time in a long time I'm now enjoying a two income home…but we are staying put. 

For me, and for everyone else, either location has it's ups and downs.  But for ME, all things considered, the burbs are the better fit.

To each their own.  If I had no kids, I'd most certainly not live where I am, but if that were the case I probably would have left the area altogether quite some time ago.

PS - If I were a city dweller I'd still no doubt have a car.  I lived without one until I was almost 30 years old, so clearly I know it can be done.  But I like road trips and self-reliance, so I need that flexibility in my life.

chaz wrote:
I were a city dweller I'd still no doubt have a car. 

especially as a parent

godsshoeshine wrote:

chaz wrote:
I were a city dweller I'd still no doubt have a car. 

especially as a parent

I'd have one even if I were not a parent. 

Is everyone in this forum married with kids??  You guys should get a big playdate together  ;D

wml7 wrote:
Is everyone in this forum married with kids??  You guys should get a big playdate together  ;D

No way…then I'd have to travel outside of my comfort zone into shitholes like DC, MD, Springfield….

might require a car so i'm out

might require boardees to meet up IRL at an agreed time… everyone is out ;D

No way. People might meet me and think I'm a nice mild mannered guy who keeps his opinions to himself.

wml7 wrote:
Is everyone in this forum married with kids??  You guys should get a big playdate together  ;D

James wrote:
I bet he's a never married (commitment-phobe)

Not a commitment-phobe, but probably poverty-phobe, as he rightfully should be. Ever been through a divorce? Of course not, that'll NEVER happen to you.

chaz wrote:
But I like road trips and self-reliance

How does owning a car have anything to do with self-reliance?

Thousand wrote:

chaz wrote:
But I like road trips and self-reliance

How does owning a car have anything to do with self-reliance?

Meaning I don't have to rely on Greyhound, Metro, Airlines, Amtrak, friends or family to get me where I want to go when I want to go there. 

wml7 wrote:
Is everyone in this forum married with kids??  You guys should get a big playdate together  ;D

kid on its way in two weeks  ;D

hoya - congrats!  i didn't know.  what an adventure you're up for :)

wml7 wrote:
Is everyone in this forum married with kids??  You guys should get a big playdate together  ;D

i'm married and living in the 'burbs - but no kids.

chaz wrote:

Thousand wrote:
How does owning a car have anything to do with self-reliance?

Meaning I don't have to rely on Greyhound, Metro, Airlines, Amtrak, friends or family to get me where I want to go when I want to go there. 

Cool. I don't rely on any of those listed either to get where I want to go when I want to go there. Isn't that great?

Thousand wrote:

chaz wrote:

Thousand wrote:
How does owning a car have anything to do with self-reliance?

Meaning I don't have to rely on Greyhound, Metro, Airlines, Amtrak, friends or family to get me where I want to go when I want to go there. 

Cool. I don't rely on any of those listed either to get where I want to go when I want to go there. Isn't that great?

Yes, that is great.  Just as for me, having a car is great. 

Nip at somebody else's heels if you want to start an argument, Toto.

You still haven't answered my question: How does owning a car have anything to do with self-reliance? I already debunked your answers.

Thousand wrote:
You still haven't answered my question: How does owning a car have anything to do with self-reliance? I already debunked your answers.

You are hilarious, and in this instance, quite dense.  Obviously explaining to you how owning an automobile affords me a level of flexibility, spontaneity, convenience and independence (ie  self-reliance) that I would otherwise not have, is a waste of breath.  So I will not even attempt to explain it any further.

Really, I'm glad for you that you happily manage without a car.  One less car in the world is a good thing.