9:30 Club Sues Over Subsidies for Planned Live Nation Venue in Silver Spring

Well, you're paying for your order to be processed. Bandwidth, etc. Not justifying it; it's just what they'd say. I think it's bullshit, too.

azaghal1981 wrote:
Well, you're paying for your order to be processed. Bandwidth, etc. Not justifying it; it's just what they'd say. I think it's bullshit, too.

yeah, I guess they're doing what you're paying them to do, process the transaction… that doesn't change whether there's a show or not…. what's more annoying to me than not getting your "convenience charge" refunded, is when a band postpones their show a day before the concert date, and then won't refund your money, even though you may not be able to make the rescheduled show….. not cool, in my book….. this happened to my neighbor earlier this month, which is why it's on my mind…..

TM charges "convenience" and "per order processing fee" (usually $2 to $4). They don't refund the processing fee if the event is canceled but they do refund the convenience.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/h/purchase.html

1.) they stuff your tickets in the envelope (labor)
2.) they take your order by phone (labor)
3.) they pay for standard mail postage
4.) they provide customer service by phone in case you have questions about your previous order (labor)

azaghal1981 wrote:
Well, you're paying for your order to be processed. Bandwidth, etc. Not justifying it; it's just what they'd say. I think it's bullshit, too.

For what they charge, they should send someone (that you pick from a list of pics on the site) out to your house to give you a free old fashion, too.
Look at it as their giving you a reacharound as they fuck you in the ass.

To me this is like if you had a reservation through open table and then you get a call from the restaurant saying they can't accomodate you but you have to pay 10 bucks processing.  Or you order a book through Amazon and they find out they don't have it in stock and they cancel your order and make you pay 10 dollars conveince fee.

Ticketing is scam.  You can't return the tickets.  You pay outragous fees.  There should be a set price and whatever the deal that the venue pays to the ticketing system  is their business.  I don't need to know what it is.  And when you cancel an event give me my money back.  All of it. 

atomicfront wrote:
To me this is like if you had a reservation through open table and then you get a call from the restaurant saying they can't accomodate you but you have to pay 10 bucks processing.   Or you order a book through Amazon and they find out they don't have it in stock and they cancel your order and make you pay 10 dollars conveince fee.

Ticketing is scam.  You can't return the tickets.  You pay outragous fees.  There should be a set price and whatever the deal that the venue pays to the ticketing system  is their business.  I don't need to know what it is.  And when you cancel an event give me my money back.  All of it. 

if all of that happened . . . people would stop using the service and the service would stop doing that or go away.  people can't stop going to concerts.  they are slaves to music.  ticket companies know nobody will DO anything about it, except bitch, and keep using the service . . . thus, they aren't going to stop.  the government has been using this tactic for years.

walkonby wrote:

atomicfront wrote:
To me this is like if you had a reservation through open table and then you get a call from the restaurant saying they can't accomodate you but you have to pay 10 bucks processing.   Or you order a book through Amazon and they find out they don't have it in stock and they cancel your order and make you pay 10 dollars conveince fee.

Ticketing is scam.  You can't return the tickets.  You pay outragous fees.  There should be a set price and whatever the deal that the venue pays to the ticketing system  is their business.  I don't need to know what it is.  And when you cancel an event give me my money back.  All of it. 

if all of that happened . . . people would stop using the service and the service would stop doing that or go away.  people can't stop going to concerts.  they are slaves to music.  ticket companies know nobody will DO anything about it, except bitch, and keep using the service . . . thus, they aren't going to stop.  the government has been using this tactic for years.

Actually….I stopped going to shows due to getting raped everytime I bought a ticket. Now I live in live concert wasteland so it's not even a temptation.

This is slander, Live Nation would never screw over anyone.

"But two years after Blige took the stage that first night, the wait continues for the Fillmore?s stakeholders to deliver on some of the commitments they made to win the right to operate the publicly financed facility."

"Montgomery County and Live Nation, the $5.8 billion live entertainment giant, have held just one of a required 72 free or discounted community events at the venue to date, and have yet to agree on terms for the staging of a charitable auction that is supposed to take place annually."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/the-fillmore-in-the-spotlight/2013/09/06/9473c2a2-08eb-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

Nice going, Montgomery County. You get what you deserve.

At least the Fillmore wasn't named "Most Hopeful" venue.

Hmm I think some friends played that one community event if it is the one I am thinking of. It was a Sonic Circuits show.

Edit: Nevermind.

slappy wrote:
This is slander, Live Nation would never screw over anyone.

"But two years after Blige took the stage that first night, the wait continues for the Fillmore?s stakeholders to deliver on some of the commitments they made to win the right to operate the publicly financed facility."

"Montgomery County and Live Nation, the $5.8 billion live entertainment giant, have held just one of a required 72 free or discounted community events at the venue to date, and have yet to agree on terms for the staging of a charitable auction that is supposed to take place annually."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/the-fillmore-in-the-spotlight/2013/09/06/9473c2a2-08eb-11e3-9941-6711ed662e71_story.html

was the free show the icelandic festival?  with of monsters and men? 

Aren't EDM community shows? It gets the bros off the streets

Thousand wrote:
Nice going, Montgomery County. You get what you deserve.

At least the Fillmore wasn't named "Most Hopeful" venue.

I could count the number of shows I've seen at the Fillmore on one hand, none of the bands they book remotely interest me and on the whole I find it a disappointment. 

blast from the past threads . . . are the best

the fillmore in Miami beach has to 50 tickets for $10 for every show to any mb resident who is senior citizen or student.

walkonby wrote:
blast from the past threads . . . are the best

true….. and all this time later, I still haven't been to a show there…..

i went once, it was ok, but their beer selection, was horrible, but since i dont drink anymore, i have to admit, i enjoy the fact there is a very nice hotel literally a block away, which is nice.