kosmo
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 02:56 PM UTC
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Thanks B_W for proving JF's point that roses fans are douches…. IMHO that album is as fresh as both Frank and Bearman combined.
BTW, I'll bet you opined that a James reunion was pathetic, and they of course came back and destroyed
and for the record, that second record also stands the test of time, it was certainly years before every other British rock band got infatuated with Led Zep. Of course it was a disappoint for all us douche roses fans when it was released, but it's definitely worth the revisit.
bunnyman
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 03:20 PM UTC
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Reni and Gary are indeed a solid rhythm section. Incredible musicians. John Squire was the Jimmy Page of the mid-90's that most people never had a chance to see in person, but I did and I can attest to his incredible talent and craft. Ian Brown is hit or miss and the one wild card in this reunion. But I'll bet they'll do a great job. I'm A-OK with all of this.
bunnyman
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 03:22 PM UTC
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"Second Coming" isn't a disaster. It would be so much better respected if the band had a chance to release a couple more LP's. That nonsense with Silvertone Records really took the wind out of their sails (and sales). There's still a slew of great singles and b-sides they did too.
Brian_Walalce
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 03:24 PM UTC
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Where's that clip from "Shaun of the Dead?"
Brian
xneverwherex
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 03:26 PM UTC
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This is awesome news! I remember seeing John Squire with the Seahorses and thinking that was pretty awesome (as I figured a Roses reunion was never happening). Ive always liked him much better than Ian Brown who Ive seen a few times.
I still think those albums hold the test of time - and the intro on breaking into heaven. its still as great as the first time i heard it.
Kasabian did make a whole career using the same exact sound. It seemd to work out quite well for them. Lets hope the Stone Roses still sound as great.
kosmo
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 03:28 PM UTC
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bearman wrote:
"Second Coming" isn't a disaster. It would be so much better respected if the band had a chance to release a couple more LP's. That nonsense with Silvertone Records really took the wind out of their sales. There's still a slew of great singles and b-sides they did too.
I know when it came out "Second Coming" made me see red, but now I'd kinda like to hear a deluxe/expanded version of that room. I suspect lots ended up on the cutting room floor for that one, didn't they work with several producers for it?
kosmo
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 03:34 PM UTC
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Brian_Wallace wrote:
Where's that clip from "Shaun of the Dead?"
Brian
Ed: 'Purple Rain'?
Shaun: No.
Ed: 'Sign o' the Times'?
Shaun: Definitely not.
Ed: The 'Batman' soundtrack?
Shaun: Throw it.
Ed: 'Dire Straits'?
Shaun: Throw it.
Ed: Ooh, 'Stone Roses'.
Shaun: Um, No.
Ed: 'Second Coming'.
Shaun: I like it!
Ed: Ahhh! 'Sade'.
Shaun: Yeah, but that's Liz's!
Ed: Yeah, but she did dump you.
Shaun: Oh!
Brian_Walalce
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 04:02 PM UTC
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kosmo wrote:
Brian_Wallace wrote:
Where's that clip from "Shaun of the Dead?"
Brian
Ed: 'Purple Rain'?
Shaun: No.
Ed: 'Sign o' the Times'?
Shaun: Definitely not.
Ed: The 'Batman' soundtrack?
Shaun: Throw it.
Ed: 'Dire Straits'?
Shaun: Throw it.
Ed: Ooh, 'Stone Roses'.
Shaun: Um, No.
Ed: 'Second Coming'.
Shaun: I like it!
Ed: Ahhh! 'Sade'.
Shaun: Yeah, but that's Liz's!
Ed: Yeah, but she did dump you.
Shaun: Oh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxb5Tr1DybABrian
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 04:11 PM UTC
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xneverwherex wrote:
Kasabian did make a whole career using the same exact hair.
there you go.
Brian_Walalce
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 04:32 PM UTC
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Has Vegas posted any action on this?
Odds it will be the four original members?
Odds that Noel Gallagher will be on the support bill for the Manchester shows? Kasabian? Beady Eye? The Happy Mondays?
Brian
Brian_Walalce
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 04:36 PM UTC
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Just look at those trousers!

Brian
hutch
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 05:20 PM UTC
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I like the second album too.. not great but good..
The first album is one of the greatest records ever cut…
To me Stone Roses is what Oasis always tried to be.
Not sure I can agree that Ian Brown's solo records are as good as Stones Roses.. wish it were so!
Mobius
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 07:09 PM UTC
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With Reni in the mix and everyone on the same page I like the odds that they can produce a reasonable facsimile of the transcendent lighting in a bottle they created once upon a time.
Of course that magic proved to be extremely fragile and died back in June '90 when Reni played his last show (he never played a single show in the US!). Second Coming has some value but has the labored and fractious feel of a band operating with the magic gone.
But if MBV could do it . . .
jaguar
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 08:05 PM UTC
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Sure, Second Coming isn't as good as their debut release, but I still like it. Not as good isn't necessarily the same as bad.
Good news in my book. Of course, looking forward to early reviews. As we all know, there's no guarantee how this will work out. Some do a great job reuniting while others would have been better off resting in their graves.
Brian_Walalce
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 08:07 PM UTC
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The Primal Scream do "Screamadelica" shows never hit America did they?
OR the Suede reunion
OR the Blur reunion.
What kind of venues could the Stone Roses play if they played over here?
Slightly less than the Pixies, right?
Brian
jaguar
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 08:18 PM UTC
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^ Do I sense a wave of excitement from Brian? ;D
I'd be thinking that there might be some hope for the old boy's musical taste yet… except for that Roxy Music dig. You can diss The Beatles, The Stones, Pink Floyd and other older greats but don't diss Roxy Music without getting a swipe from me. (Snarrrrr Hiss)
Brian_Walalce
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 08:43 PM UTC
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No. I'm just fascinated by the "Weren't ever POPULAR popular but give it a few years and CRITICAL popularity can have you sell out mid-size venues" phenomenon or "The Pixies Effect." But it's only a certain few. A band reuniting and getting more popular just because Kurt Cobain or Noel Gallagher cite them as a major influence. Honestly, if Noel Gallagher never mentioned The Stone Roses do you think there would be this much excitement? No one's ever going to care about a Fountains of Wayne reunion in fifteen years if they never breakup. And I think people are going to misjudge how certain an R.E.M. reunion is, too.
But the Stone Roses are going to headline the last night at Coachella 2012 now aren't they? It's fait accompli?
Brian
lwoxley
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 09:07 PM UTC
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jaguar
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 09:21 PM UTC
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You know Brian, for some of us, it's just about the music. Some of us couldn't give a crap what Kurt or any of the Gallegher's (except Frank) have said. Don't care what the NME, Spin, Pitchfork or Rolling Stone are pushing. Hey, my musical tastes pretty much prove that since most of what I listen to is ignored by them. It's just the music.
Brian_Walalce
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Re: Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again
October 18, 2011 at 09:29 PM UTC
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Jaguar wrote:
You know Brian, for some of us, it's just about the music. Some of us couldn't give a crap what Kurt or any of the Gallegher's (except Frank) have said. Don't care what the NME, Spin, Pitchfork or Rolling Stone are pushing. Hey, my musical tastes pretty much prove that since most of what I listen to is ignored by them. It's just the music.
I call bullshit on this. Where did you first hear of The Stone Roses? How about the Pixies? MTV? HFS? All the hits they had?
Brian