Stone Roses reunion rumors surface again

Brian_Wallace wrote:

The Primal Scream do "Screamadelica" shows never hit America did they?

OR the Suede reunion

OR the Blur reunion.

What kind of venues could the Stone Roses play if they played over here?

Slightly less than the Pixies, right?

Brian

Suede played Coachella. It was a pretty good show.

Brian_Wallace wrote:

Jaguar wrote:
You know Brian, for some of us, it's just about the music. Some of us couldn't give a crap what Kurt or any of the Gallegher's (except Frank) have said. Don't care what the NME, Spin, Pitchfork or Rolling Stone are pushing. Hey, my musical tastes pretty much prove that since most of what I listen to is ignored by them. It's just the music.

I call bullshit on this.  Where did you first hear of The Stone Roses?  How about the Pixies?  MTV?  HFS?  All the hits they had? 

Brian

Probably HFS, WCVT or WJHU. Definitely not any of the rags I listed.

Where did you hear of Fall Out Boy?

Jaguar wrote:

Brian_Wallace wrote:

Jaguar wrote:
You know Brian, for some of us, it's just about the music. Some of us couldn't give a crap what Kurt or any of the Gallegher's (except Frank) have said. Don't care what the NME, Spin, Pitchfork or Rolling Stone are pushing. Hey, my musical tastes pretty much prove that since most of what I listen to is ignored by them. It's just the music.

I call bullshit on this.  Where did you first hear of The Stone Roses?  How about the Pixies?  MTV?  HFS?  All the hits they had? 

Brian

Probably HFS, WCVT or WJHU. Definitely not any of the rags I listed.

Where did you hear of Fall Out Boy?

Underground mix tapes and word of mouth!  Duh!

Brian

^ Yeah, those are all cool and helpful but all of those people get their info from elsewhere too and sometimes it's from places that Papa may venture into.

Besides, back then, college and alternative (note the lower case 'a') was actually worth listening to. Nothing like the over commercially controlled crap of today. Go back just a little further and you would often actually hear true underground cuts. WGTB (from Georgetown University) use to be incredible at airing such music before the hierarchy took them down.

^^^

You forgot "Kids!  Get off my lawn!"

Brian

I'm guessing Brian has not only never got laid, he's never even had a stinky pinky, never mind a female tongue in his mouth……

Frank wrote:
I'm guessing Brian has not only never got laid, he's never even had a stinky pinky, never mind a female tongue in his mouth……

I find that very revealing.  Never experienced coitus?  Maybe.  Never been romantically kissed?  Possibly.  It's the one in the middle that you're so eager to tell me I've never experienced…..  I'm sure that was a regular part of your childhood in the council estates and at boys school.

Brian

Brian_Wallace wrote:

^^^

You forgot "Kids!  Get off my lawn!"

Brian

I never tell anyone to stay off the grass. Maybe you should try some. Chill out a bit. Your extreme ageism is showing and it's very ugly and even a bit psychotic. Sociopathic.

One of these days, if you live that long, I bet anything that you'll grow into one of those old curmudgeons who have utter and complete contempt for the younger generations. It's sort of like a leopard not changing its spots except that it only involves an ever so slight adjustment of which generations you hate.

Everyone in America learned about the Stone Roses the same way.  They got the cassette from a friend that was always cooler than them. . . .then listened to it repeatedly, perhaps to the point of obsession, often wondering how something could be so effortless yet impossibly amazing.  If they were lucky they caught the Fools Gold video late night on 120 Minutes and wondered if it was a dream or if the coolest future imaginable was already happening in Engerland.

Nothing similar happened with Suede, Blur, Manic Street Preachers, etc . . .

So who else put on the debut album at work today?

i stole tape from the gift shop at my college early 90… i think i thought it was a heavy metal band


fell in love with it instantly..

live they were always hit and miss..


i'd like to hear the debut but my lps are a mess right now..maybe i dig it out.. i do have a hankering for it..

Frank wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15359644

Rite mait….sor'tid…top drawer that is man.

this made it feel real, felt a little giddy after watching it…  I'm thinking Merriweather late fall 2012 and maybe Seth and company will turn into a mini festival with some old school acid/techno/house djs digging out the vinyl

What about The Seahorses?  ;D

Mobius wrote:
Everyone in America learned about the Stone Roses the same way.  They got the cassette from a friend that was always cooler than them. . . .then listened to it repeatedly, perhaps to the point of obsession, often wondering how something could be so effortless yet impossibly amazing.  If they were lucky they caught the Fools Gold video late night on 120 Minutes and wondered if it was a dream or if the coolest future imaginable was already happening in Engerland.

Nothing similar happened with Suede, Blur, Manic Street Preachers, etc . . .

That album's NOT THAT GOOD!  You're looking at it through the rose-coloured glasses of nostalgia.  "Bye Bye Badman" is ok but the "Scarborough Fair" one?  The one that's just another song backwards?  Puh-leeze.  And the elephant in the room is that they pretty much, by all accounts, sucked live.  Have you LISTENED to the Spike Island show?  Noel Gallagher claims he's heard a version of "I am the Resurrection" they did in which each member is playing a completely different portion of the song.

This isn't because you people are losing your jobs and have a lot of student loans to pay for is it?  So sad!  I really feel for you…..

They were the first big U.K. "Next Big Thing" who fizzled out.  The Libertines have a more solid foundation for British bands that were hyped and lost it.  The Stone Roses are built on sand.  You'll see next summer.

Brian

I'm going to have to say that in terms of being pathetic and worthless the Hole and Smashing Pumpkins "reunions" top this one by a mile.  As I recall one Brian_Wallace attended a couple of those Hole "reunion" shows.

But whatever, it must be more important to go out and support bands offering fake nostalgia and playing dress-up.  See Semi Precious Weapons

What I'm finding amazing is how much Brian degrades any sort of mainstream appearance by a band as being a mark of worthlessness while also using some sort of mainstream success of a band's reunion as an indicator of its value.

Can't have it both ways, Brian. Just chill out and enjoy the music for how it makes you feel and don't worry about whether or not the mainstream has caught on to them or not. If you want to groove out to train wreck Courtney or little boys Fall Out Boy, all while perving over photos of Scarlet, than so be it. But please stop insisting that any given band isn't any good just because they have a few years on them. There are plenty of great recordings, films and books that were created while you were still shitting your diapers. Lots were created even before any of us were even born. Most of us appreciate art for what it is; not shit all over it because it pre-dates our last birthday.

Just to clarify, Brian is the one who looks at music through the glasses of 'nostalgia'.  I'm talking about what I thought at a time in relation to actual experience.  Everyone else is to.  Its not nostalgia.  Its appreciation.  If you have a good time at your high school reunion catching up, it doesn't mean you are still living inthe past or want to actually be in high school. 

You're missing the point.  They had one overrated album and a disaster that took longer than the Smiths entire career.  But put it in the oven, bake for fifteen years and ALL IS WELL!  They were AWESOME!  Popular (rock) music is supposed to be an active, vital thing.  Not something that you look at it in a museum.  Pavement, Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Roses, etc.  There are bands out there NOW who are just as fresh as they WERE.  And yet it's too SCARY to take a chance on new bands!  Let's just listen to the same music from 15, 20, 40 years ago because it's been VETTED.  It's SAFE.  I honestly don't care if people criticize my love for Lady Gaga, etc. because it's NOW.  It's CURRENT.  It's 2011.  The kids understand.  When your kids (?) ask you what you listened to in 2011 you'll say "The Stone Roses" and they'll be confused.  My reaction is similar to Jay Cutler's six words at the end of the first quarter on Sunday.  Apparently, I am the only one who is disgusted by this pathetic embrace of nostalgia.  Hey, listen to "I Am The Resurrection" all you want and harken back to a day when life was less scary and you still had potential.  I'll be over here living my life.

Brian

Brian_Wallace wrote:

You're missing the point.  They had one overrated album and a disaster that took longer than the Smiths entire career.  But put it in the oven, bake for fifteen years and ALL IS WELL!  They were AWESOME!  Popular (rock) music is supposed to be an active, vital thing.  Not something that you look at it in a museum.  Pavement, Smashing Pumpkins, Stone Roses, etc.  There are bands out there NOW who are just as fresh as they WERE.  And yet it's too SCARY to take a chance on new bands!  Let's just listen to the same music from 15, 20, 40 years ago because it's been VETTED.  It's SAFE.  I honestly don't care if people criticize my love for Lady Gaga, etc. because it's NOW.  It's CURRENT.  It's 2011.  The kids understand.  When your kids (?) ask you what you listened to in 2011 you'll say "The Stone Roses" and they'll be confused.  My reaction is similar to Jay Cutler's six words at the end of the first quarter on Sunday.  Apparently, I am the only one who is disgusted by this pathetic embrace of nostalgia.  Hey, listen to "I Am The Resurrection" all you want and harken back to a day when life was less scary and you still had potential.  I'll be over here living my life.

Brian

yawn..

dude, you're getting really annoying.. cluttering every thread.. if you're not into something live and let live…


don't oversimplify things man: people can live their lives in the now and still listen to an old record.. i mean wtf?

seriously dude, tone it down or you are on your way out of this forum.

The Stone Roses were awesome. Then and now, in hindsight. It's a pleasure to pull that disc out for a spin every now and then because of its awesomeness even though MOST OF US HAVE moved onto other music.

You're definitely barking on the wrong board if you truly believe that we only listen to music from our early 'good old days' collections. We may not all like the same bands but we all do like keeping up with what's new and coming around.