New Order gets back together without Hook (aka payback's a bitch)

Brian_Wallace wrote:

It's necropathetic.  Music is the only artistic medium where it's not only accepted but encouraged to revere music made generations ago.  And it's POP music.  It's like preserving a bag of Doritos.  There isn't a lot of 15 year-olds who love the Beatles anymore but there's a lot of 30 year-old who do.  Adult men and women who should be doing adult things and they play on their iphones, take money from mommy and step-daddy and play "The Beatles Rock Band."  Which is pathetic.  It's this whole Generation X thing.  Mom and Daddy got divorced and they never grew up.   It really is the enemy of progress.  Nostalgia.  If you want to live in the past, fine.  The rest of us have grown up and are moving on.  Listen to whatever you want.  But that won't stop me and a lot of others from regarding you with utter contempt.  Put on your ironic t-shirts and drink you soda and listen to Lenny Kravitz and complain about how George Lucas raped your childhood.


Brian

Dude, sorry for basically calling you stupid and having ego problems. It's not productive.
I would seriously suggest expanding and exploring your thoughts. Take an art history course.

To say 'Music is the only artistic medium where it's not only accepted but encouraged to revere music made generations ago.' shows complete ignorance to some of the joys of humanity. No wonder you have 'utter contempt'.

The history of every artistic medium is accepted, encouraged, and revered! Have you never been to a museum or gallery? Looked at buildings? Been to a library?

You obviously have the skills for critical thinking, you just haven't explored the world enough to know it isn't flat.

People listen to  old music because todays music for the most part is SHIT! Name ONE current day band that people will still be listening to in 20 years time. *There are a handful of good bands but generally speaking todays garbage is unoriginal bad attempts at emulating bands from years past*

Brian is most likely a middle child who was not given much attention by mommy and daddy. He's not as smart as the older sibling and not as pretty as the younger one. He does whatever it takes to grab attention from anybody. Wether negative or positive is not important, it's just the attention he yearns for. He's feels he's the big man with his bold statements using big words….bless him.

99% of music from ANY decade sucks. It's just easier to find the good music from the past because someone else has already done the work for you. Or you've done it yourself, and your hindsight is bettter than your current vision.

Frank wrote:
People listen to  old music because todays music for the most part is SHIT! Name ONE current day band that people will still be listening to in 20 years time. *There are a handful of good bands but generally speaking todays garbage is unoriginal bad attempts at emulating bands from years past*

Brian is most likely a middle child who was not given much attention by mommy and daddy. He's not as smart as the older sibling and not as pretty as the younger one. He does whatever it takes to grab attention from anybody. Wether negative or positive is not important, it's just the attention he yearns for. He's feels he's the big man with his bold statements using big words….bless him.

Brian_Wallace wrote:
Music is the only artistic medium where it's not only accepted but encouraged to revere music made generations ago. 

Sure, it's not like people revere older painting or sculpture or are paying nine figures for a 70-year old Picasso, or a 50-year old Giacometti.

I feel like that guy in that new car commericial about the Vermeer paintings.  There's also one with a Honus Wagner baseball.  I'm the guy with the car.

"What will I be doing in twenty years' time? I'll be dead, darling! Are you crazy?" - Freddie Mercury


Brian

Brian_Wallace wrote:
"What will I be doing in twenty years' time? I'll be dead, darling! Are you crazy?" - Freddie Mercury

so it's ok to quote mercury but not ok to listen to his music?

you often post quotes & passages - things others have said, often long ago.  isn't that a form of idolizing the past?  GET WITH THE PRESENT, BRIAN. 

:P

sweetcell wrote:

you often post quotes & passages - things others have said, often long ago.  isn't that a form of idolizing the past? 
:P

Dammit!  You GOT me,  Encyclopedia Brown!  You just wait until your husky girlfriend ain't with ya!  Then me and the rest of the Tigers will break your glasses!

Hugs and kisses,

Bugs Meany

any ideas on brian wallace's true identity?  i'm 80% sure he's an alter-ego of another boardie, and i'm guessing Booker T :)

HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
any ideas on brian wallace's true identity?  i'm 80% sure he's an alter-ego of another boardie, and i'm guessing Booker T :)

James Ford/Rhett?

HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
any ideas on brian wallace's true identity? 

Flawd.

ggw wrote:
Flawd.

Good call

Might not be too hard to figure out by searching keywords and finding someone else that hates the Beatles, Paul Simon, Madchester, New Order and nostalgia; But has a fondness for Freddy Mercury and Encyclopedia Brown.
Hasn't the persona also shown some love for Dane Cook and My Chemical Romance?

slappy wrote:
Might not be too hard to figure out by searching keywords and finding someone else that hates the Beatles, Paul Simon, Madchester, New Order and nostalgia; But has a fondness for Freddy Mercury and Encyclopedia Brown.
Hasn't the persona also shown some love for Dane Cook and My Chemical Romance?

and hates the idea that people might like to have fun once in awhile. (i.e. beatles rock band)

slappy wrote:
Might not be too hard to figure out by searching keywords and finding someone else that hates the Beatles, Paul Simon, Madchester, New Order and nostalgia; But has a fondness for Freddy Mercury and Encyclopedia Brown.
Hasn't the persona also shown some love for Dane Cook and My Chemical Romance?

I actually think it's someone who enjoys that stuff but needs an outlet… I think it's pretty funny, frankly

Haven't gone through the entire thread, but from what I read elsewhere on-line, this reformation is simply for 2-3 shows for a charity benefit & that's about it.

Medusa wrote:
Haven't gone through the entire thread, but from what I read elsewhere on-line, this reformation is simply for 2-3 shows for a charity benefit & that's about it.

there's a quote from gillian that makes me think otherwise..here it is:

"It's been a long ten years since I took a break from the band, so I I'm really happy to be back, and this is a great place to start."

Funny, I just cannot picture New Order without Peter Hook. And same with Depeche Mode without Alan Wilder. Even though Martin Gore is the songwriter, Alan fleshed out all the tunes and breathed life into them. He was the master arranger. If Ian Curtis had been the heart of Joy Division, Peter Hook was the blood running through it. And that goes the same for New Order.

bearman wrote:
Funny, I just cannot picture New Order without Peter Hook. And same with Depeche Mode without Alan Wilder. Even though Martin Gore is the songwriter, Alan fleshed out all the tunes and breathed life into them. He was the master arranger. If Ian Curtis had been the heart of Joy Division, Peter Hook was the blood running through it. And that goes the same for New Order.

NO ONE can imagine neworder without Hook… no one… but crazier things have happened… pink floyd without waters?

hook seems rather resigned to it.. after the show someone outside was telling him how new order couldn't carry on without him.. i didn't want to talk about it..the whole thing is crazy…

the real issue is do these guys have anything worthwhile left to say…

Hook is a bass player….I could probably replace him and I've only ever played violin