Since the gun ban has been reversed...

I don't defend the "need" for citizens to own guns, but I do defend their "right" to do so under the constitution. I also feel that the laws regulating the sale and ownership of guns should be ridiculously strict and enforced with outrageous penalties for the use of a gun while committing a crime.

Let me know how that golf club and your threatening voice works if you ever are unfortunate enough to be the victim of a home invasion.

Isn't "home invasion" one of those trick fear phrases like "partial birth abortion"? What really happens is that a robber breaks into your place when you're not there, takes the handgun you bought for the home invasion scenario, and sells it to a criminal on the black market. This is how most of the guns in the hands of criminals got there

Originally posted by edbert:

Let me know how that golf club and your threatening voice works if you ever are unfortunate enough to be the victim of a home invasion.

Isn't "home invasion" one of those trick fear phrases like "partial birth abortion"? What really happens is that a robber breaks into your place when you're not there, takes the handgun you bought for the home invasion scenario, and sells it to a criminal on the black market. This is how most of the guns in the hands of criminals got there

Explain it away all you want, I'm just glad anti-gun folks, like anti-choicers are in the minority.

Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
Explain it away all you want, I'm just glad anti-gun folks, like anti-choicers are in the minority.

you mean ant-gun supreme court justices.

Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
anti-gun folks (..) are in the minority.

i'm curious - anyone got any numbers to back up this statement?

There's a huge difference between being anit-gun and being anti-handgun.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by pdx pollard:
http://www.slate.com/id/2193813/entry/2194311/

Hey! Excellent, but don't forget the best part of that quote:

But I must first pass along this rather brilliant observation from professor Stephen Wermiel from American University, who wonders why none of the dissenters cautioned the majority that today's decision "will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed."
(Boumediene, Scalia, J. dissenting.)

wermiel was my con-law professor, really brilliant and witty guy

i worked on gun control issues throughout college and i dreaded this decision ever since the DC circuit took this case and it was assigned to a panel with Silberman … if gore or kerry had been elected this never would have happened

that said, the majority opinion is incredibly well-written … it's undoubtedly scalia's chef-d'oeuvre and the opinion he's waited his whole career to write: a compelling originalist take on a little-examined (at least in federal courts) constitutional amendment …. he (a little too) conveniently sweeps aside past precedent like Miller, and has the opportunity to press reset, wipe the slate clean, and start building an entire jurisprudential structure in a way he could never do with more frequently litigated constitutional issues … this is the first of many cases that will build on his foundation

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You're gonna have to pry this out of my cold dead fingers

Originally posted by sweetcell:

Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
anti-gun folks (..) are in the minority.

i'm curious - anyone got any numbers to back up this statement?

"anti-gun" is such a red herring … "anti-gun" opinion ranges from people who want all guns outlawed (a tiny minority) to those who want handguns outlawed (a larger minority), to those who want licensing and registration requirements (like cars), to those who just want guns to have common-sense safety mechanisms like trigger locks, magazine disconnect safeties, and loaded-chamber indicators (every consumer product other than guns and ammunition is regulated by the CPSC and has to be "safe")

the only public opinion statistics that i know off the top of my head is that opinion polls consistently place support for common sense safety measures like the ones i mentioned at over 70-80% of the american public

Originally posted by Relaxer:
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You're gonna have to pry this out of my cold dead fingers

think of how many safety mechanisms (mandated by the government) are built into that little bastard

the dc gun ban went into effect in 1976. dc was the 'murder capital' in the late 80's and early 90's. . . mostly due to gun violence. i don't think the gun ban was really strongly linked to rates of gun violence in dc.

i like "banning" stuff just as much as the next guy, but can't we have a "war on guns" like the "war on drugs" and the "war on terror"

its so cool to have a "War" on something. how awesome and effective!

I've just decided to declare War on Douchebaggery.

It's on.

Originally posted by vansmack:
I've just decided to declare War on Douchebaggery.

It's on.

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You know, I was thinking about this earlier when this came up on MSNBC – if Obama wants my vote you know what he can do? Promise to put the full force of an Obama Administration behind repealing the Second Amendment.

I'd not only vote for him; I'd donate the max, wear the shirts, march in the streets, and substitute Jesus Christ with him as my personal Lord and Savior. He'd lose for sure, but we'd both go down together. In the homosexuality of Obamaphilia, I'd be the most flaming, flamboyant Obamasexual of all the Obamasexuals.

i think you owe us all a giant Obamapology for that insane posting.

with all the funny Obama-isms, has anyone thought to call the opposing supports McCainiacs?

i just did.

Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
with all the funny Obama-isms, has anyone thought to call the opposing supports McCainiacs?

i just did.

I think McCain beat you to it that terrible week all the big 3 candidates appeared on WWE Raw.

I'm dead serious though. If a major candidate simply came out and made their campaign platform "All guns are bad, mmk?" I'd go nuts. I'd follow them around the country and jump up and down and scream like European soccer fans.

I think I heard Keith Olberman say it a couple days ago. If it wasn't him, it was definitely someone else on MSNBC.

Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
i think you owe us all a giant Obamapology for that insane posting.

with all the funny Obama-isms, has anyone thought to call the opposing supports McCainiacs?

i just did.

Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
with all the funny Obama-isms, has anyone thought to call the opposing supports McCainiacs?

I like calling them the McSame's.