Sidehatch
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 30, 2018 at 04:55 PM UTC
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Ok…I know this has nothing to do with serial…but there is no horrific crime court updates thread
So most of you probably heard… Noor Salman was acquitted on the Pulse nightclub massacre
Based on what I read this is totally justified as it was easily proven she knew nothing about asshat Omar's plans….
what shocked me about this is…the Pulse wasn't the intended target, but google led him there when his original target was passed.
On the night of the attack, Mr. Mateen went to the House of Blues at Disney Springs, GPS data and surveillance footage showed. Spooked by the heavy security, he got back in his rental van and searched for downtown Orlando nightclubs on Google. The second hit was Pulse, a gay nightclub with a popular Saturday Latin night.
“It’s a horrible, random, senseless killing by a monster. But it wasn’t preplanned,” Mr. Swift said. “And if he didn’t know, she couldn’t know.”
So all that conjecture about Omar hating gay's and was secretly gay himself and had been to that club…was that all bullshit?
people suck and I'm sorry but stricter gun control laws would have surely prevented this regardless of what the NRA would have you believe
Sidehatch
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 06:28 PM UTC
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anyone caught this yet

Space Freely
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 06:58 PM UTC
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Right now, we have a box of Cheerios and a box of Corn Flakes open. Up next it Barbara's Shredded Oats.
jrpa
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 07:03 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Right now, we have a box of Cheerios and a box of Corn Flakes open. Up next it Barbara's Shredded Oats.
All cereals that aren't Crispix are garbage. Facts only.
grateful
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 08:27 PM UTC
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Lies! 1/2 Total and 1/2 Life is the only way to go. Start my day with a bowl of total life.
Sidehatch
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 08:32 PM UTC
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jrpa
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 08:41 PM UTC
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excontradiction wrote:
Lies! 1/2 Total and 1/2 Life is the only way to go. Start my day with a bowl of total life.
Life Cereal: cure for the common breakfast.
sweetcell
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 11:16 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
excontradiction wrote:
Lies! 1/2 Total and 1/2 Life is the only way to go. Start my day with a bowl of total life.
Life Cereal: cure for the common breakfast.
cure: something that makes a problem go away.
assuming that you consider breakfast a problem, then you are indeed correct: offer up life cereal, and all of a sudden breakfast goes away because i'd rather eat nothing…
jrpa
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 11:26 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Julian, wrote:
excontradiction wrote:
Lies! 1/2 Total and 1/2 Life is the only way to go. Start my day with a bowl of total life.
Life Cereal: cure for the common breakfast.
cure: something that makes a problem go away.
assuming that you consider breakfast a problem, then you are indeed correct: offer up life cereal, and all of a sudden breakfast goes away because i'd rather eat nothing…
Its a Mad Men reference.
vansmack
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 11, 2019 at 11:43 PM UTC
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Wait. He's not out yet? The court of Podcast rendered it's decision years ago….
sweetcell
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
March 12, 2019 at 04:36 AM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
Julian, wrote:
excontradiction wrote:
Lies! 1/2 Total and 1/2 Life is the only way to go. Start my day with a bowl of total life.
Life Cereal: cure for the common breakfast.
cure: something that makes a problem go away.
assuming that you consider breakfast a problem, then you are indeed correct: offer up life cereal, and all of a sudden breakfast goes away because i'd rather eat nothing…
Its a Mad Men reference.
oh. sorry. i only watch non-prestige TV…
Sidehatch
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 15, 2022 at 11:32 AM UTC
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Wow, another attempt
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3643114-prosecutors-ask-court-to-throw-out-murder-conviction-of-serial-subject-adnan-syed/It seemed there was reasonable doubt, but the podcast was produced with that intent, so feel like I don’t really know
sweetcell
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 19, 2022 at 09:14 PM UTC
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Adnan Syed walks out of courthouse after judge overturns his 1999 murder conviction (B'more Sun)
Judge Overturns Murder Conviction of Adnan Syed of ‘Serial’ (NYT)
Mr. Syed, 41, had been serving a life sentence for the 1999 murder of his high school classmate Hae Min Lee. The judge gave prosecutors 30 days to ask for a new trial or drop the case.
vansmack
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 19, 2022 at 10:09 PM UTC
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That poor family.
jrpa
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 19, 2022 at 10:57 PM UTC
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vansmack wrote:
That poor family.
Which one?
Sidehatch
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 20, 2022 at 01:04 AM UTC
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Wow!
Sidehatch
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 20, 2022 at 10:29 AM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
vansmack wrote:
That poor family.
Which one?
yea, I would like to know this too
Obviously hard for Lee’s family to go through this yet again, but jez Anan has been in jail since he was 17 and is now 41, for a crime that it appears there is evidence he didn’t commit
It is worse that there was a podcast about this that became famous, but it seems the podcast was right the whole time and the prosecution ignored and buried evidence, because it didn’t fit their narrative that the had the right guy
I do feel for her family, but she is gone and nothing is going to bring her back. the thought of spending life in prison for a crime you didn’t commit is just as horrible for his family too
jrpa
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 20, 2022 at 01:23 PM UTC
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Special-hatch wrote:
for a crime that it appears there is evidence he didn’t commit
I would disagree with this assessment. The prosecution not turning over evidence of other individuals they looked at is not "evidence he didn't commit."
The most likely and reasonable explanation for this young lady's death remains Syed by a wide margin. That is also not sufficient for the burden of proof in a criminal trial.
jrpa
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 20, 2022 at 01:32 PM UTC
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Special-hatch wrote:
but it seems the podcast was right the whole time and the prosecution ignored and buried evidence, because it didn’t fit their narrative that the had the right guy
I would also disagree with this assessment. The podcast outed none of this. The specific things the podcast pointed out have turned out to be ass. Other people independent of the podcast discovered this stuff.
jeffml
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Re: How is there not a Serial thread yet?
September 20, 2022 at 01:42 PM UTC
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Agree, the 1st podcast just opened a lot of questions. It is pretty clear now however that the main "witness" was not reliable and was fed information by the cops. The cell phone tower evidence would no longer be admissible in court today. No DNA evidence tying Adnan to the scene or victim. 2 other viable suspects that detectives did not delve into or tell defense attorneys about. Guilty? Maybe/maybe not. Enough reasonable doubt to acquit? Definitely.
When you have DA's office on board with overturning the conviction, it shows that there were huge errors and questions from the original investigation.