Yada wrote:
over/under on this tradgey being the cause of Space's 3rd? 4th? 5th? banning?
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Paris attacks and Eagles of Death Metal
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ggw wrote:
Are you talking about Maddow trying to get one of the survivors to pin responsibility on the club for not having metal detectors and pat downs at the door?
"Are you saying there were no metal detectors at the door?"
"Do you mean to tell me they didn't even pat you down or search you on the way in?!?!"
"So you're saying that the security at the club was non-existent?!?!"
no.. she said a staff producer had talked to someone in the EODM camp and was reporting one band member had died… she then said at the end of the show that it was not so…
hutch wrote:ggw wrote:
Are you talking about Maddow trying to get one of the survivors to pin responsibility on the club for not having metal detectors and pat downs at the door?
"Are you saying there were no metal detectors at the door?"
"Do you mean to tell me they didn't even pat you down or search you on the way in?!?!"
"So you're saying that the security at the club was non-existent?!?!"
no.. she said a staff producer had talked to someone in the EODM camp and was reporting one band member had died… she then said at the end of the show that it was not so…
it's not a band member, but their merch manager died. very sad news.
on a somewhat related note… media is such scum. last night the NYT, which is a garbage news outlet who thinks they write the news instead of report it, tweeted every five minutes or so the same article. get it? a bunch of people died, and you need to read their article and only their article. NYT has to pay the bills, so lets capitalize on this. whoever is in charge of their social media blitz earned their salary yesterday. maybe i should be directing my frustration towards our new media platforms: instant, sensationalized news via social media.
fart wrote:hutch wrote:ggw wrote:
Are you talking about Maddow trying to get one of the survivors to pin responsibility on the club for not having metal detectors and pat downs at the door?
"Are you saying there were no metal detectors at the door?"
"Do you mean to tell me they didn't even pat you down or search you on the way in?!?!"
"So you're saying that the security at the club was non-existent?!?!"
no.. she said a staff producer had talked to someone in the EODM camp and was reporting one band member had died… she then said at the end of the show that it was not so…
it's not a band member, but their merch manager died. very sad news.
on a somewhat related note… media is such scum. last night the NYT, which is a garbage news outlet who thinks they write the news instead of report it, tweeted every five minutes or so the same article. get it? a bunch of people died, and you need to read their article and only their article. NYT has to pay the bills, so lets capitalize on this. whoever is in charge of their social media blitz earned their salary yesterday. maybe i should be directing my frustration towards our new media platforms: instant, sensationalized news via social media.
that is sad…
media is disgusting…and not just on social media….their coverage is so sensationalistic, misleading and simplistic…i'd like to send them to Syria….
This site, is the media.
walk,on,by wrote:
This site, is the media.
ummm no.. stick to real estate
fart wrote:hutch wrote:ggw wrote:
Are you talking about Maddow trying to get one of the survivors to pin responsibility on the club for not having metal detectors and pat downs at the door?
"Are you saying there were no metal detectors at the door?"
"Do you mean to tell me they didn't even pat you down or search you on the way in?!?!"
"So you're saying that the security at the club was non-existent?!?!"
no.. she said a staff producer had talked to someone in the EODM camp and was reporting one band member had died… she then said at the end of the show that it was not so…
it's not a band member, but their merch manager died. very sad news.
on a somewhat related note… media is such scum. last night the NYT, which is a garbage news outlet who thinks they write the news instead of report it, tweeted every five minutes or so the same article. get it? a bunch of people died, and you need to read their article and only their article. NYT has to pay the bills, so lets capitalize on this. whoever is in charge of their social media blitz earned their salary yesterday. maybe i should be directing my frustration towards our new media platforms: instant, sensationalized news via social media.
So you hate institutionalized mainstream media and you hate grassroots social media? How do you propose we get information about domestic and international events?
Relaxer wrote:fart wrote:hutch wrote:ggw wrote:
Are you talking about Maddow trying to get one of the survivors to pin responsibility on the club for not having metal detectors and pat downs at the door?
"Are you saying there were no metal detectors at the door?"
"Do you mean to tell me they didn't even pat you down or search you on the way in?!?!"
"So you're saying that the security at the club was non-existent?!?!"
no.. she said a staff producer had talked to someone in the EODM camp and was reporting one band member had died… she then said at the end of the show that it was not so…
it's not a band member, but their merch manager died. very sad news.
on a somewhat related note… media is such scum. last night the NYT, which is a garbage news outlet who thinks they write the news instead of report it, tweeted every five minutes or so the same article. get it? a bunch of people died, and you need to read their article and only their article. NYT has to pay the bills, so lets capitalize on this. whoever is in charge of their social media blitz earned their salary yesterday. maybe i should be directing my frustration towards our new media platforms: instant, sensationalized news via social media.
So you hate institutionalized mainstream media and you hate grassroots social media? How do you propose we get information about domestic and international events?
i guess you can read it like that, but really it's the media institutions capitalizing on the social media platforms that bothers me. twitter had to start making money (and making other people money) at some point, right? it can work just fine for certain types of news… sports, elections, pop culture, but it's failing us with politics and it's capitalizing on tragic events. and yeah, i get it, they are just giving the people what they want.
to entertain your question: i have no clue, but we need to not act like ambulance chasers when it comes to tragic events. we've institutionalized our approach (e.g., special coverage and real-time reporting through social media) as each tragic event unfolds with the same questions: who did this? why did they do this? what should we now be afraid of? it's an open declaration that you can have a platform for your radical/extremist/homicidal ideas. you can be heard.
France is bombing ISIS targets in Syria.
I'm, more interested in how many times, James ford has been banned.
What? Doorman at shows should be armed?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/14/donald-trump-says-tough-gun-control-laws-in-paris-contributed-to-tragedy/
I'm not sure why newspapers report on such absurd claims, without a 2nd opinion? This would not happen in other countries.
Did the journalist realize she was being completely disrespectful to people from Paris?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/14/donald-trump-says-tough-gun-control-laws-in-paris-contributed-to-tragedy/
I'm not sure why newspapers report on such absurd claims, without a 2nd opinion? This would not happen in other countries.
Did the journalist realize she was being completely disrespectful to people from Paris?
emmanuel wrote:
What? Doorman at shows should be armed?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/14/donald-trump-says-tough-gun-control-laws-in-paris-contributed-to-tragedy/
I'm not sure why newspapers report on such absurd claims, without a 2nd opinion? This would not happen in other countries.
Did the journalist realize she was being completely disrespectful to people from Paris?
Donald Trump is the most visible and popular Republican in the entire country and has, for months, led the national polls in his quest to become President of the United States. His perspectives on a terrorist attack are extremely important for people so that they can judge what his views and goals are, how he might act as president, and if the Republican party should be trusted to run the country.
I'm sure az will pick this apart, but this is a pretty good overview on what's going on in that god forsaken hell hole as of today. I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm to the point of wanting to turn this area into an oil slick.
http://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/9735102/syria-isis-history-video
http://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/9735102/syria-isis-history-video
There is an extremely NSFW image (unless you work with Julian) floating around of inside the Batalan Theatre. One of the scariest/saddest photos I've ever seen. I'm not sure why I clicked the link. :(
Yada wrote:
I'm sure az will pick this apart, but this is a pretty good overview on what's going on in that god forsaken hell hole as of today. I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm to the point of wanting to turn this area into an oil slick.
http://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/9735102/syria-isis-history-video
the last time we got to that point we invaded Iraq and that got us to this point..
think people…think.
moreover, it is not as if we are not attacking ISIS and killing their leaders one by one..but does the solution lie there?? can we kill enough of them fast enough??
think people.. think..
hutch wrote:Yada wrote:
I'm sure az will pick this apart, but this is a pretty good overview on what's going on in that god forsaken hell hole as of today. I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm to the point of wanting to turn this area into an oil slick.
http://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/9735102/syria-isis-history-video
the last time we got to that point we invaded Iraq and that got us to this point..
think people…think.
moreover, it is not as if we are not attacking ISIS and killing their leaders one by one..but does the solution lie there?? can we kill enough of them fast enough??
think people.. think..
What solution do you propose, Starsky?
hutch wrote:Yada wrote:
I'm sure az will pick this apart, but this is a pretty good overview on what's going on in that god forsaken hell hole as of today. I'm as liberal as they come, but I'm to the point of wanting to turn this area into an oil slick.
http://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/9735102/syria-isis-history-video
the last time we got to that point we invaded Iraq and that got us to this point..
think people…think.
moreover, it is not as if we are not attacking ISIS and killing their leaders one by one..but does the solution lie there?? can we kill enough of them fast enough??
think people.. think..
We had no reason to invade Iraq. I'd say we have reason(s) to wipe out ISIS.
Yada wrote:
There is an extremely NSFW image (unless you work with Julian) floating around of inside the Batalan Theatre. One of the scariest/saddest photos I've ever seen. I'm not sure why I clicked the link. :(
If it's the same one I saw [which apparently is taken after clean up started] I don't know how more people weren't killed to be honest. I heard an interview with one of the survivors of the theatre attack and they said the attackers just kept firing and reloading and firing for 10 or 15 minutes. So insane. I can't even begin to imagine something like that.
There's also video someone was taking of the show when the gunfire starts. Haven't seen that stuff though. Truly insane.
This is sad but I don't know if it's more sad to see just how immediately people used this to push their political agenda on Friday night. I had to stay off social media to avoid getting more angry about the situation.