the weed, thread

Yeah not convinced tax revenues is a good reason to legalize.

That’s how people justify the lotteries which are very regressive and in my opinion immoral. Same with all the casinos.

Hutch wrote:
Yeah not convinced tax revenues is a good reason to legalize.

That’s how people justify the lotteries which are very regressive and in my opinion immoral. Same with all the casinos.

You lost, get over it.

The only valid reason for legalizing weed is that it's cool

I am always in favor of legalization but the argument that it increases tax revenue, while effective politically, just doesn’t cut it with me.

SideH@tchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:
In the first month… almost 90 million in sales (over 5 million in tax revenue) in the first month of legalization in MD

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/sales-of-recreational-marijuana-exceed-expectations-in-first-month-of-legalization-in-maryland/3398444/


I hope the va legislature takes this into account when January rolls around this year

Leaving an insane amount of tax revenue on the table by not figuring out how to do sales,  md did it in 82 days! (Jez been over a decade in dc)

Va… what a terrible state.

Hutch wrote:
I am always in favor of legalization but the argument that it increases tax revenue, while effective politically, just doesn’t cut it with me.

Are you arguing that MJ legalization doesn't result in increased tax revenue? That wouldn't make any sense.

No. I am saying it’s not a good reason to legalize marijuana.

Marijuana should be legal because it’s not that bad for you not because governments can make money from it.

Hutch wrote:
Marijuana should be legal because it’s not that bad for you not because governments can make money from it.

I'm in total agreement

But I like to share the tax revenue info, as all that revenue was going into the black market (I know I'm a racist)
just in MD close to 1 Billion every year to an economy that was not exactly above recrimination
it's funding all sorts of other illegal enterprises….only because the gov't made it illegal to posses, sell and consume

People want real legit jobs and a taxable revenue stream…well god dammed if I we didn't just discover a massive untapped stream

It can support local businesses, and farmers, and create local jobs that aren't some big box retailer (where most of the revenue goes somewhere else)…heck even boosts girl scout cookie sales.


Yes…this is counter to: It should just be legal, it's just a plant. 

But it's the, "I had no idea there would be that many ancillary benefits to someone smoking a joint."
People were already doing it, so why not create a legit source for jobs and tax revenue…and keep it out of the black market

Yada wrote:
Va… what a terrible state.

for the record, we had legal adult recreation consumption and possession 2 years before MD.  But the f'n republudicks made sales such a clusterfuck, who knows when they will get their heads out of their asses.  I'm sure it will start to become an issue when people bring up that their next-door neighbor cash a 5 million a month in tax revenue and can say they are creating new jobs

aspirational wrote:
But the f'n republudicks made sales such a clusterfuck, who knows when they will get their heads out of their asses. 

No, the Democrats, who passed marijuana legalization and the path to recreational sales while holding the House of Delegates, State Assembly, AG, and Governor's office made this a clusterfuck by deciding they'd all like to get home to their districts a day or two earlier and writing a "details to come later and require ratification next year or else hit stop on a consumer marketplace" provision into it instead of doing the work knowing full-well elections were around the corner and it was more than likely – even if you didn't see the executive office loses coming – that the HoD was going to swing back to the GOP.

You don't get to not provide someone CPR then blame the EMTs who show up 10 minutes later for not doing enough.

Don't use facts to fuck with my imagined narrative!

As payback for the arena deal, Youngkin is more than likely going to kill the legal sales in VA set to take place next year.

The two party government; the voice of the people.

Blow, wrote:
As payback for the arena deal, Youngkin is more than likely going to kill the legal sales in VA set to take place next year.

The two party government; the voice of the people.

He was never, ever, ever signing any retail marijuana bill that came to his desk.

Julian, wrote:

Blow, wrote:
As payback for the arena deal, Youngkin is more than likely going to kill the legal sales in VA set to take place next year.

The two party government; the voice of the people.

He was never, ever, ever signing any retail marijuana bill that came to his desk.

yep and there isn't the will to overturn his veto…republicans suck, it's just that simple…yet many a republican pot smoker or libertarian will keep voting against their own interests

methylene wrote:

Julian, wrote:

Blow, wrote:
As payback for the arena deal, Youngkin is more than likely going to kill the legal sales in VA set to take place next year.

The two party government; the voice of the people.

He was never, ever, ever signing any retail marijuana bill that came to his desk.

yep and there isn't the will to overturn his veto…republicans suck, it's just that simple…yet many a republican pot smoker or libertarian will keep voting against their own interests

The Democrats have no one to blame for this but themselves. They had the HoD, State Senate, and Governorship and for reasons no one can explain, they passed this in a way that required reauthorization a year later to establish retail knowing full well there was a Governor election in the interim. This is an astonishing own-goal. 

Julian, wrote:This is an astonishing own-goal.

look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby

methylene wrote:

Julian, wrote:This is an astonishing own-goal.

look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby

It was a hockey reference.

Julian, wrote:

methylene wrote:

Julian, wrote:This is an astonishing own-goal.

look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby

It was a hockey reference.

well played

methylene wrote:

Julian, wrote:

methylene wrote:

Julian, wrote:This is an astonishing own-goal.

look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby

It was a hockey reference.

well played

actually if it's an own goal then it was poorly played

sweetcell wrote:

methylene wrote:

Julian, wrote:

methylene wrote:

Julian, wrote:This is an astonishing own-goal.

look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby

It was a hockey reference.

well played

actually if it's an own goal then it was poorly played

Not if you made a deal with the bookie beforehand

The <a href="https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/07/doobie-act-would-codify-federal-hiring-policy-former-marijuana-users/398156/">DOOBIE Act</a> would codify federal hiring policy for former marijuana users

Shortly after Biden’s inauguration in 2021, the Office of Personnel Management issued new guidance stating that a federal job applicant’s past marijuana use can no longer be the sole factor behind the decision not to hire them. Similarly, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence updated its rules to clarify that past marijuana consumption cannot be the only reason behind the denial of a security clearance for federal workers and contractors.

The Dismantling Outdated Obstacles and Barriers to Individual Employment—or DOOBIE—Act (S. 4711), introduced by Sen. Gary Peters, D-Mich., chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, would codify that guidance in federal law. Currently, the policy could be rolled back by a future administration with a similar issuance of new guidance.