hutch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 04:27 PM UTC
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Decriminalize drugs.
Although how you deal with dealers isn’t so easy
Some of these cities are having a dozen or more murders a week..there are a lot of guns around and a lot of violence excluding that by cops
Not so easy to walk these streets if you are a cop..you need to make these streets safer and the only way I can think of is to invest so much money and afford so much opportunity that crime is no longer the only way out other than sports or celebrity
If you think taking cops out of Baltimore is going to fix things and everyone is going to be singing kumbaya…well
hutch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 04:35 PM UTC
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I don’t think society is ready to have an honest conversation about this…it’s a lot of sloganeering and no sign anything is getting done
Meanwhile resentment between the races is just building up…it was already pretty bad before…
If I was Biden I would be proposing some sort of massive economic opportunity program but he is going to play it safe…and just post obvious stuff on his Facebook like we shouldn’t have chokeholds..scared to freak out whites..and how would you pay for it?
Of course police was overwhelmingly pro Trump before and now…
I have a friend who works (worked?) at a DC bar that hosts police week and he said the pro Trump cheers at the police week events past few years have been deafening (and sickening to him..and he used to self identify as Republican)
hutch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 05:05 PM UTC
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We might want to look at what post apartheid South Africa did…to learn some lessons..do’s and don’ts
South Africa has to be the closest case to us..after all we ended our apartheid in the 1960s and they did in the 1990s..of course in their case the majority is black
We may wish to compel our largest businesses to pay a one time “reparations tax” (call it something else) and spend the money on creating opportunities for blacks and spending trillions to bring inner cities back.
Space Freely
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 05:37 PM UTC
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My sister-in-law, who dates a Chicago cop (Latino, not that it matters) , wore a "Property of Chicago Police Department" shirt out in public last week. She caught an elbow from someone while in a store and challenged that person to a fight. Challenge went unaccepted.
Not the brightest one in the family….
Space Freely
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 05:38 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
Side-Nue!antz wrote:
JUST IN: “White Lives Matter” spray-painted on Arthur Ashe monument in Richmond
The real crime is how terrible that monument is. It looks like he’s beating children and holding a Bible aloft while doing it.
can confirm
grateful
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 06:33 PM UTC
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I inadvertently wore my 2008 Police tour shirt last week and went out to pick up some beer. Felt self-conscious the whole time :(
kosmo
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 07:21 PM UTC
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I have a t-shirt that says Vote Whig
“They couldn’t possibly be worse” was wearing the other day and realized it probably wasn’t sending the ironic message I viewed it as having. Probably a boat load of old racists there…
beetsnotbeats
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 07:55 PM UTC
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This button is on my book bag. It was swag that came with the reissue of this:

sweetcell
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 09:01 PM UTC
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^ or are you admitting to being a follower of QAnon?!?!?
Sidehatch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 09:09 PM UTC
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things are changing quick…
The Atlanta officer who fatally shot Rayshard Brooks in the back after the fleeing man pointed a stun gun in his direction will be charged with felony murder and 10 other charges. Possible sentences include life without parole or death penalty.
Even if we had the video in March 2020…this would have not had the same result
beetsnotbeats
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 09:58 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
^ or are you admitting to being a follower of QAnon?!?!?
For anybody that sees it, I wonder what they think? For that matter, few have actually seen it. I only carry it going to and leaving work, plus the occasional meeting in the center of the campus (where there are far more eyes). Add to it my middle-aged white guy-ness….
jrpa
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 17, 2020 at 10:41 PM UTC
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I know a woman (early 30s) who is seemingly normal. Nice, not ugly, not political at all. She recently announced her engagement. Went out to a dinner to meet the lucky young gentleman right before COVID shut everything down — he is a Jehovahs Witness pop-punk rocker (multiple bands on Spotify) who is a fervent believer in Qanon. Talked everyone’s ear off about it. But he thinks it’s all part of the book of Revelations — like the Bible foretold Qanon. And to be clear, as a Jehovahs Witness he does not vote and thinks Trump is a bad person.
It truly was one of the most fascinating things ever to happen to me. I hope an army of psychiatrists write a book about him someday so I can read it.
sweetcell
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 19, 2020 at 06:39 AM UTC
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Sidehatch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 19, 2020 at 04:23 PM UTC
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peter Segal gave a real lesson on what happened in
https://twitter.com/petersagal/status/1274004959017697280In Little Rock, I was taught, local authorities defied Brown v Board and wouldn't let Black students – the Little Rock Nine – enter Little Rock Central High School. So Ike sent the 101st Airborne, escorted them to school, all fixed, yay.I also learned about massive Resistance in VA that pretty much had laws and funds for education segregation into the mid 60s
https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/massive_resistance#start_entryI mean it makes sense, but still a little shocking
Sidehatch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 19, 2020 at 04:41 PM UTC
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Louisville police is firing officer Brett Hankison involved in Breonna Taylor shooting
as nina says 'too slow' but man the dial seems to be moving fast
sweetcell
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 19, 2020 at 05:26 PM UTC
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Old wrote:
peter Segal gave a real lesson on what happened in
https://twitter.com/petersagal/status/1274004959017697280
In Little Rock, I was taught, local authorities defied Brown v Board and wouldn't let Black students – the Little Rock Nine – enter Little Rock Central High School. So Ike sent the 101st Airborne, escorted them to school, all fixed, yay.
I also learned about massive Resistance in VA that pretty much had laws and funds for education segregation into the mid 60s
https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/massive_resistance#start_entry
I mean it makes sense, but still a little shocking
excellent reads.
challenged
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 19, 2020 at 06:18 PM UTC
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Early and Persistent, Persistent, Persistent education at school and at home is really the only way to end systemic racism. Teaching kids not only to not be racist, but to be anti-racist.
No chance I was taught about Redlining, Juneteenth, Tulsa Race Massacre, and so much more in my progressive northern public school curriculum. Meanwhile … at home yiddish racial perjoratives were still used and accepted, and with middle school dirtbag buddies the N word was fairly regularly thrown around. Ah, the 70s.
Anyway…I like this song and I am buying a bunch of music on bandcamp to get me more records and contribute to the NAACP legal defense fund.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4HusI8Xyqk
Sidehatch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 22, 2020 at 07:44 PM UTC
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so yes it's NASCAR…but they are really making an effort
check out what is going on in Talladega
hutch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 22, 2020 at 07:55 PM UTC
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NASCAR was virtually a KKK rally for the past century….
Also nobody will ever convince me keeping the steering wheel turned left is car racing
hutch
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Re: How to end systemic racism?
June 22, 2020 at 07:58 PM UTC
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But yeah credit where credit is due