The Afghanistan Thread Thread

since it's in the news, and we're arguing about it in random threads,here's once place to discuss both past and current collapses of the country… and what the future may hold.


these pix are crazy (apology if this has already been posted).  might be the most people to ever fly on a single plane.



(source)

this is a day old, so may already be all red


and how it was only 5 days ago

Can't believe they're not wearing masks on that flight.

can we blame Canada?
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/canada-utterly-failed-in-afghanistan-why-cant-we-say-this-out-loud/

Over 40,000 Canadian soldiers served in Afghanistan, making it our largest military deployment since the Korean War. We spent $2.2 billion in assistance spending trying to rebuild the country–Canada’s largest aid program in history. And our diplomatic strategy around the world, for the better part of a decade, pivoted on the war, and what it meant to our alliances and bilateral relations.

Afghanistan was not a sideshow—it was the main event for Canada, for over a decade. And yet, we don’t talk about it. Ever.


the author makes $2.2 bil sound like a lot of money…

Yada wrote:
Can't believe they're not wearing masks on that flight.

I actually see a few

Sigma-hatch wrote:

Yada wrote:
Can't believe they're not wearing masks on that flight.

I actually see a few

pretty sure those are burkas.

in all seriousness… what a god damn colossal failure by the US once again. Couldn't be more sad for those people.

Where are these people going to be dropped and then fucked over again?

Sad? Those are the lucky ones….

It was more a generalization of Afghani people vs the specific ones on the plane, but I have a hunch the people on that flight won't be so lucky either.

I agree with you.

After 20 years of war, it took 3 days of leaving the country to start it's own thread. 

I mean it’s all relative… people on that plane won’t get their heads chopped off but what awaits them in America? Contrary to popular opinion it’s not exactly easy for anybody here…


I am so hoping the taliban will moderate their actions - some signs they might- but that might be wishful thinking

Starsky wrote:
I am so hoping the taliban will moderate their actions - some signs they might- but that might be wishful thinking

I'll believe in a kinder, gentler Taliban when I see some evidence of it. It's not like they're riding around in bumper cars or anyt– oh, wait.

vansmack wrote:
After 20 years of war, it took 3 days of leaving the country to start it's own thread.

That’s a great point…. It’s not as if the taliban didn’t control large swathes of Afghanistan already!

American liberals live and love to beat themselves up over the inequities around the world

Julian, wrote:

Starsky wrote:
I am so hoping the taliban will moderate their actions - some signs they might- but that might be wishful thinking

I'll believe in a kinder, gentler Taliban when I see some evidence of it. It's not like they're riding around in bumper cars or anyt– oh, wait.

Hey that’s a step forward if they can enjoy an American styled theme park!!!

Super-spreader flight?

Sigma-hatch wrote:
can we blame Canada?

… before somebody thinks of blaming us

Sigma-hatch wrote:the author makes $2.2 bil sound like a lot of money…

for canada, it is considering its military spending.  canada spends more of its budget on social programs like healthcare, so there isn't as much left for military.  last year the country spent around $22B on military, in total.  having a nearly unlimited military budget, including lots of unreported funding (dark money), isn't something canadians are into…

Starsky wrote:
I mean it’s all relative… people on that plane won’t get their heads chopped off but what awaits them in America?

they're not headed to america - that flight went to Doha.  zero chance all those folks will be getting to the US, unless they already have visas. 

Yada wrote:
Can't believe they're not wearing masks on that flight.

i'm told the refreshments were pitiful and service was really, really slow.

sweetcell wrote:

Sigma-hatch wrote:
can we blame Canada?

… before somebody thinks of blaming us
having a nearly unlimited military budget, including lots of unreported funding (dark money), isn't something canadians are into…

Must be nice to have the biggest superpower and an ocean as their closest neighbor
I wouldn't spend any money on a military either