Predict date Dow Jones 📈 hits 40,000!

Being a stock guru is easy when you just wait to see what happens and then tell people what they should've done months ago, authoritatively!

Julian, wrote:
Being a stock guru is easy when you just wait to see what happens and then tell people what they should've done months ago, authoritatively!

I know, it's the secret to Sidefi's amazing track record

hutch wrote:
So you are now issuing a retroactive to March 10 buy order that supersedes your call to sit on the sidelines with cash?

Thank you Sidefi!

To be clear, I said buying opportunities will happen…
clearly none of you are on my stocktips whatsapp group where buy orders were issued later that day

also Sidefi is issuing a Lame Call

on the inclusion in the OBBB  of the MAGA Accounts (stands for “money account for growth and advancement”)
rumor has it they may end up calling them 'Trump accounts'
many vehicles already exist that provide bigger benefits
this is a bureaucratic process that really only the well heeled will take advantage of with the help of their CPA
MAGA accounts are limited to a single U.S. equity index fund!
although and interesting twist is they can also be used home-buying, or business start-up (which a 529 can not)
but at only 5k max a year, that's not going to be a whole lot to start a business or buy a house in 18 years
again, will mostly just be another tax shelter only those making big bucks will take advantage of

those born in the next five years will have $1000 in an account, that potentially could be a nice 18'th birth day gift
if you put 1k in a DJI index 18 years ago, you would have $3500 today

every newborn in the United States born between January 1, 2025, and January 1, 2029 (some sources say December 31, 2028), would receive a $1,000 deposit from the federal government into a new custodial investment account established in their name

like the 401k's this will actually be a huge win for the banking industry who will get a cut of everyone of these and I'm sure will make billions in fees because of this
I do think there should be something in there that banks can't charge fees higher than 0.5% or something

I have to imagine there is a clause in there that 'birthright citizens' are not eligible

hutch wrote:
How does sidehatch feel about crypto now? I don’t have any- and I know it’s at an all time high- and I LOATHE it but I think it’s going to boom

Ok I own a penny of bitcoin and I'm a little upset I didn't get an invite to this dinner
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/23/politics/trump-crypto-meme-coin-dinner
interesting timing on the surge of crypto


sad that even when you bribe the POTUS with millions that he won't even take the time to shake their hands
Even VIP token holders couldn’t speak or even shake hands with the president.

ha:
NBA player Lamar Odom spent half a million dollars on the $TRUMP meme token in order to attend the dinner.


this is quite an insane quote
"40% of Trump's entire net worth is due to these two crypto coins that he just launched months ago. All of this money is going straight into his pocket. He is trading U.S. policy to get paid.” - Chris Murphy

wow it's even worse than I thought
The president's net worth is expected to get another bump, with World Liberty Financial's announcement this week that a Abu Dhabi-backed firm will invest billions of dollars in the Trump family-affiliated crypto fund. The Emirati firm, MGX, will purchase $2 billion in a stablecoin product offered by World Liberty, the company said in a statement to CBS. The currency, called "USD1" will then be used to invest in Binance, one of the world's largest cryptocurrency exchanges.

World Liberty has ties to the president and his sons. The fine print on the company's website says an entity affiliated with Mr. Trump and his family members own a 60% stake in the company.

wow, just wow
The White House responded to a request for comment by telling CBS News to "report on something people actually care about."
sadly it's true

You would think a headline like this would have a negative impact on the US stock market… seems like it shrugged it off

The World Bank has cut its forecasts for growth, blaming Donald Trump’s trade war and says the 2020s are on course to be the weakest decade for the global economy since the 1960s

dow was only 300 away from the all time high of 45,073
at this rate, we might hit 50k before the end of the year (well…that's a little ambitious, but not off the table)

bitcoin also at a new high of $113K

with all this chaos the Trump admin has been doing…the markets and crypto could care less

Well I think it’s incredibly short sighted…. But Wall Street is the one area that celebrates unemployment so par for the course…

In a wat this is classic of fascism

hutch wrote:
Wall Street is the one area that celebrates unemployment

yep, I agree with that

Genuine Question


Did Germany have a stock index in 1930? If so how did it do over the 1930-1945 period?

hutch wrote:
Genuine Question


Did Germany have a stock index in 1930? If so how did it do over the 1930-1945 period?

Germany did not have a formal, centralized stock index in the modern sense (like the DAX) during the 1930s and 1940s. However, there were active stock markets, and financial historians have reconstructed indexes based on historical data.

Performance Overview (1930–1945)
1. Early 1930s – Great Depression:
• Similar to the U.S., German stocks crashed during the global depression.
• From 1929 to 1932, equity values fell by over 60–70%, with extreme volatility due to economic collapse, unemployment, and political instability.
2. 1933–1939 – Nazi Regime and Recovery:
• After Hitler came to power in 1933, the stock market partially rebounded due to government-led rearmament, public works, and monetary policy.
• Industrial shares—especially in sectors like steel, chemicals, and armaments—performed well.
• However, the recovery was heavily manipulated: capital controls, propaganda, and repression of market forces meant that price signals were distorted.
3. 1939–1945 – World War II:
• The market functioned under severe restrictions during the war.
• Trading volumes collapsed, many stocks were not traded freely, and the government intervened heavily in pricing.
• Despite this, reconstructed data suggests that nominal prices remained stable or rose modestly, but:
• Inflation-adjusted returns were poor.
• Liquidity and trust in markets were extremely low


Answer based on using exact question in chatgpt

S&P hits a new high 6466
it was below 1000 only 15 years ago

550% return in 15 years isn't too shabby


although…the fear is this is the top and no where to go but down
I just don't understand all this irrational market exuberance

https://www.jpmorgan.com/insights/markets/top-market-takeaways/tmt-are-we-seeing-irrational-exuberance-in-the-market-we-dont-think-so

So as we get ready to hit a new all time high on the DJI, I have pondered in this thread, how on earth can the stock market be so exuberant when it so many things in the market look so bleak as well as Trumps insane way of influencing the global markets


welp it seems AI spending has been so big in the last year, it's pretty much propping up our economy

The eight most-valuable stocks in the S&P 500 are all tech stocks with some stake in building the AI-powerd future.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2025/08/18/how-americas-ai-boom-is-squeezing-the-rest-of-the-economy
analyses from Stripe and the Economist, state clearly that without the current wave of AI infrastructure spending, the US could be seeing stalled or even negative growth, as traditional drivers weaken

SeriousSideFX wrote:
I have pondered in this thread, how on earth can the stock market be so exuberant when it so many things in the market look so bleak as well as Trumps insane way of influencing the global markets

it's almost like the stock market isn't the same thing as the economy!  weird, right? 

of course they are not, but to act like they are not intertwined is childish

I still think the AI spending is propping up our economy

AI investments have contributed more to GDP growth in 2025 so far than consumer spending, which typically accounts for two-thirds of GDP.
without AI-related investments in 2025,  U.S. GDP growth might be approximately half or slightly less of what it is now, illustrating how AI spending is currently critical to propping up the economy amid other weaknesses


so am I to assume that GDP is not a good way to track the economy as well?


on a realted note, the DJI crested over 46,000 today, a new high
up 22% since April 8…that's some sauce for an index

DJI continues testing new highs….but this is interesting oddity amongst all this irrational exuberance

Gold (GC=F) rose to a fresh all-time high on Monday, topping $3,750
Gold is up in the 40% range since January!

and we wait to Hear Latest Comments From the Fed…I assume a rate cut will give the markets a boost too

those who were dollar cost averaging their purchases this year are making a killing

PlenaryHatch wrote:
Gold is on the rise!
although when we find out that Trump looted Ft Knox, wonder what will happen to that

man, if I'd only put my money where my mouth was (or keyboard)

Gold is up 50% YTD!
and BTC is up 100% on the one year chart with new high of $126k yesterday
DJI broke 47K just a few days ago

still able to get 4% in CDs or Savings

WTF is up with money market accounts, in the last 30 years that has been the worst possible place to put your $

Bad news, inflation is up, unemployment is up and we are on the verge of civil war…but looks like those things are good for you wallet
Mortgage rates still high (see cd and savings rate)

PlenaryHatch wrote:

PlenaryHatch wrote:
Gold is on the rise!
although when we find out that Trump looted Ft Knox, wonder what will happen to that

man, if I'd only put my money where my mouth was (or keyboard)

Gold is up 50% YTD!

and here I was thinking…How can I find a way to short gold because this is way too steep of a rise

Gold to hit $4,900 per ounce by December 2026, per Goldman Sachs

Not inspiring confidence Sidefi!

hutch wrote:
Not inspiring confidence Sidefi!

I'm creating an ETF, but it takes everyone of my recommendations and does the exact opposite!

but gold is having a moment for sure (at the same time as the stock market, which I think in the past was used as a hedge on the market declines?)
4,292.5
62.62% YTD

I bought gold when i was a little kid, because my evangelical religious nut mom encouraged me to do so.

I think my brother sold his long ago and bought a motorcycle. I held onto mine. I wonder if and when to see or should i just hold onto it and pass it down to my kid…