The Baltimore Orioles

Originally posted by Shadrach:
No big surprise he turned down the job, it's a shitty job. It's nearly impossible to compete long term with the Yanks and Sox spending all that money in the same division.

Yep, it's the Yankees and Red Sox fault, even though Baltimore is 11 games below .500 despite being 3-3 combined against the Yankees and Red Sox this season.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by Shadrach:
No big surprise he turned down the job, it's a shitty job. It's nearly impossible to compete long term with the Yanks and Sox spending all that money in the same division.

Yep, it's the Yankees and Red Sox fault, even though Baltimore is 11 games below .500 despite being 3-3 combined against the Yankees and Red Sox this season.

More specifically it's the fault of major league baseball as a whole. The fact that there is no salary cap has made professional baseball nearly unwatchable. That and Peter Angelos is a terrible owner.

It seems it has finally occurred to The Little Napolean that he needs to turn the organization over to a baseball guy and get out of the way. We'll see if he is able to do it.

The O's were willing to spend money before they got gun shy after making bad decisions (i.e. Joey Belle).

And the Twins and A's have shown that you don't need to outspend the league to win consistently.

The O's fall from grace is on the head of Peter Angelos. From what I know he's a scumbag, and he's an incompetent baseball guy, and the worst kind of owner - the incompetent control freak (see also Snyder, D.)

Its not just that the O's have been bad for a decade, but they play soullessly. That's why I don't mind seeing Perlazzo go, since his team's were so uninspired. Its one thing to be mediocre, but at least look alive.

Peter Angelos is the devil - but hopefully the MacPhail era will revitalize Camden Yards.

Really? Almost the whole day went by and nobody mentioned 30-3?

Last night's loss to the Twins is more aggravating. At some point, getting blown out becomes rather ridiculous, but the errors that cost the Orioles last night's game are more embarrassing.

Getting to watch your Orioles two nights in a row now vs my Halo's, I can tell you that you've got one stinky bad team. Just terrible.

angelos is an ass, but he did try to spend money on the bullpen this year.

The Orioles are so depressing. Every year in March, I try to have a positive outlook on the team, but every year, they let me down.

This is the worst they've been since 1988 when they went 0-21 (or 23, I can't remember since I was 10) at the beginning of the season.

Plus, Gibby's steroid use in the press isn't helping any either. Thanks Gibby.

I recall thinking in April that at least the Orioles will have a better season than the Nationals, who baseball writers or experts were predicting would have an historically awful season. Maybe they should have looked further up I-95.

It's become completely comical.

I think Andy Mac realizes there's only one solution…

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Speaking of blowing a fuse…..

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Also, remember that we've lost almost all of our starting pitchers due to injuries.

Originally posted by K8teebug:
Also, remember that we've lost almost all of our starting pitchers due to injuries.

I understand, but it was much worse than that the past two games. Your bullpen couldn't get me out if they had to, and there is a complete and utter lack of focus in the field and at the plate. That team is really going through the motions right now - the last 20 games especially. This is not the same team that came through Anaheim in June and at least put up a fight. I can see now how they've been no hit and set an MLB record for a loss in the last 30 days.

I think my favrotie part was when the MASN announcer asked Trembley during the inning if there was a lack of focus in the 5 run first inning and he said no - but at the first instance he had to get the players attention he threw a tirade and got tossed, the sole purpose of which was to refocus his players. Classic.

Originally posted by K8teebug:
Also, remember that we've lost almost all of our starting pitchers due to injuries.

here's a list of the nats SPs for the season (sorted by most games started):


1. M Chico (27)
2. M Bacsik (19)
3. J Bergmann (17)
4. S Hill (14)
5. J Simontacchi (13)
6. T Redding (12)
7. J Hanrahan (9)
8. M Bowie (8)
9. J Patterson (7)
10. J Lannan (6)
11. L Speigner (6)
12. J Williams (6)
13. B Traber (2)

I'm not trying to say that that's why the O's are losing, but it doesn't help.

They seem to do this every august, but this year, it's so much worse than the past.

Anybody have any opinions on whether the O's made the right move to rehire Tremblay for next year?

Given the right players and owner, is he good major league manager material? Better or worse than Perlozzo? Mazilli?

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Anybody have any opinions on whether the O's made the right move to rehire Tremblay for next year?

Given the right players and owner, is he good major league manager material? Better or worse than Perlozzo? Mazilli?

given the right players and owner right there just invalidates your prior question.

since you dont have either, the coach doesnt much matter.

i think its hard to say whos better or worse, though.

I think the O's need to go w/o a manager. It seems like they play really well (for them) under interim managers. As soon as they hire one permanently, they lose every game.

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Given the right players and owner, is he good major league manager material?

Yes, and I think you will see him succeed elsewhere in the future.

I don't think Mike Scioscia could succeed under this owner, and I think Mike is the best manager in baseball.