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mankie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:02 PM UTC #

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:

Coming back to the office this afternoon, I passed a minivan with Tennessee plates and a bumper sticker that said "WWMD?" and had a picture of the Miserable One.

Who knew?
Are you really sure it wasnt a picture of Elvis?

Then he'd have to be called MELVIS!

:roll:

mankie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:03 PM UTC #

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
work again the next morning
You work?

I bet she works for the dmv!!!

markie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:08 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Bollocks:
Then he'd have to be called MELVIS!

:roll:

Elvis= the King

What Would (his) Majesty Do

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :

mankie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:11 PM UTC #

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by Bollocks:
Then he'd have to be called MELVIS!

:roll:

Elvis= the King

What Would (his) Majesty Do

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :

But then the sticker would have to say

WW(h)MD

markie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:15 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Bollocks:
But then the sticker would have to say

WW(h)MD

too ugly. They never include little words like that in acronyms, do they SAD TWAT?

You were in the special armoured division fighting the war against terrorism, right?

Maybe it was What Would Memphis Do?

mankie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:26 PM UTC #

Originally posted by mark e smith:

SAD TWAT?

There you go…..I hadn't irked you in a while so thought you might be missing me! ;)

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:41 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Bollocks:

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
work again the next morning
You work?

I bet she works for the dmv!!!

eh heh hem…
let me clear up a couple misconceptions…
yes, i work.
no, i don't work for the dmv.
yes, i have a sense of humor.
yes, i live in a common abode, wired with the modern electric light and hot and cold water.
no, i don't grow my own food, though i do get a farm share from Jug Bay Farm weekly.
no, i wasn't on the grassy knoll and, in fact, hadn't been born yet.

now, back to the Coachella/Lolla thing.

I went to Coachella for the experience– so many great bands, camping in the desert, the art, the film fest, the bands, and did i mention the bands. I went because I knew I wouldn't see Radiohead again this year and because other bands were in that category too. The Pixies hadn't announced the full reunion tour yet, either, so I was unsure whether I'd see them elsewhere.

Lolla, on the other hand, is in the suburbs. No camping. Bands who tour regularly, or that will be back later, etc. And let's face it, the name Lollapalooza is associated with Nirvana and Pearl Jam, not with bands like the Pixies. It's possible that they would have had more luck selling tickets if they had come up with a new name.

Except for that Modest Mouse curse. Grumble.

markie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:47 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Bollocks:

Originally posted by mark e smith:

SAD TWAT?

There you go…..I hadn't irked you in a while so thought you might be missing me! ;)
Thanks!

Actually I had been meaning to ask you about one of your customers…. He keeps buying furniture from Lulu….

RonniStar

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:49 PM UTC #

Lollapalooza's troubles might have more to do with musical trends than the health of the concert industry, says promoter Seth Hurwitz, who had booked the now-canceled show at Merriweather.

"It's genuinely an alternative-music problem," Hurwitz says. "The audience for true alternative rock just isn't that big anymore. Lollapalooza was big in the early '90s, when the scene was exploding, when you had bands like Pearl Jam and Nirvana, and it was something new and truly alternative. Now you turn on the TV and everyone is pierced. I saw 'Shrek 2' the other day, and there's scene in it where one of the characters crowd-surfs."

That's one of tour problem they had last year, and they had this year. Other than the ticket prices, Alternative music has nothing new to offer. Not only that, other music genres like pop, hip-hop, modern rock and metal has taken over the music spectrum.

If the tour was targeting fans under 21, The tickets prices should under $25. IN addition, the 2 day event should been on a Saturday and Sunday or Friday and Saturday insted of the middle of the week.

They should have planned this tour much better.

mankie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:51 PM UTC #

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by Bollocks:

Originally posted by mark e smith:

SAD TWAT?

There you go…..I hadn't irked you in a while so thought you might be missing me! ;)
Thanks!

Actually I had been meaning to ask you about one of your customers…. He keeps buying furniture from Lulu….
A current customer or one of the "I hate that creepy mini sales manager in Arlington" club?

El Tee

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:53 PM UTC #

And let's face it, the name Lollapalooza is associated with Nirvana and Pearl Jam, not with bands like the Pixies. It's possible that they would have had more luck selling tickets if they had come up with a new name.

Now that is just plain silly.
Although, I do like the off-shoot name "Slice O'Palooza". A slice is nice.

mankie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:55 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Sugartastic Tee Silk:

And let's face it, the name Lollapalooza is associated with Nirvana and Pearl Jam, not with bands like the Pixies. It's possible that they would have had more luck selling tickets if they had come up with a new name.
Now that is just plain silly.
Although, I do like the off-shoot name "Slice O'Palooza". A slice is nice.

Mozzapolooza!

markie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 07:58 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Bollocks:
A current customer

Yep, I saw his silver car with temp tags about three weeks ago…

skeeter

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 08:00 PM UTC #

Originally posted by RonniStar:
IN addition, the 2 day event should been on a Saturday and Sunday or Friday and Saturday insted of the middle of the week.

You can't realistically schedule an entire tour for weekends-only. There were plenty of weekend dates on this tour.

nkotb

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 08:03 PM UTC #

What do you consider "alternative music" and how does it differ from "modern rock?" Seems like two names for the same thing.

Originally posted by RonniStar:
Alternative music has nothing new to offer. Not only that, other music genres like pop, hip-hop, modern rock and metal has taken over the music spectrum.

markie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 08:08 PM UTC #

Originally posted by nkotbie:
What do you consider "alternative music" and how does it differ from "modern rock?" Seems like two names for the same thing.

[/QB]

How about the bands that were going to play Lolla as alternative, maybe indie…

the shite they play on HFS as modern rock, I dont listen very often, but I suspect Creed, Limp, Nickleback and Evanessence along with the worst of all Linkin Park.

mankie

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 08:09 PM UTC #

Originally posted by Skeeter:

Originally posted by RonniStar:
IN addition, the 2 day event should been on a Saturday and Sunday or Friday and Saturday insted of the middle of the week.

You can't realistically schedule an entire tour for weekends-only. There were plenty of weekend dates on this tour.

I used to work with a sharkhead/knobhead/parrothead, or whatever it is Buffet fans call themselves. He told me his tours are planned so that he ONLY plays Thu/Fri/Sat shows….is that right?

skeeter

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 08:17 PM UTC #

A quick TicketMaster check shows Buffet shows on Sun, Tue, Thur, Fri and Sat.

nkotb

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Re: no lolla.. June 23, 2004 at 08:24 PM UTC #

Although I didn't emphasize the point very well, that's sort of what I was getting at. There is such a huge lack of unity as far as rock music goes, that a festival like this seems bound to lose interest nowadays.

Lollapalooza doesnt' have the scope that Coachella did to represent several subgenres at once (electronic, indie, underground hip hop, etc.) At shows like that, almost everyone has their own little worlds to enjoy their own little things. Throwing bands like Sonic Youth and Morrissey together seems counter-productive to establishing a theme. And it's not enough of a diverse line-up or area to seperate this enough that everyone that likes "underground" music can get the fill of what they like.

For everyone of us that was psyched about the diversity of the line-up, I'd be 20 people were scoffing at paying money to see certain acts. I can't stand Morrissey, but hey, attached to a Sonic Youth show, yeah I'd check him out. I can't imagine that many fans of Morrissey's brand of mopey rock (and that's not a put-down) would really dig a noise jam by Sonic Youth.

Lollapalooza was great when it started, because they mainly stuck to one style, even if that varied each year. The first year definitely stuck to more hardrock bands (Butthole Surfers, Rollins, NIN, Jane's). As they went on, they focused more on alternative music on the radio (Pixies, Pavement, Beasties, Smashing Pumpkins).

This was probably the most diverse line-up they've ever had (in my opinion), and while it's a great idea for a handful, it's not going to get the mass appeal that it used to. Plus, it's probably just too big for it's britches nowadays. I cant' imagine the first tour made much money, but then again, they didn't have any expectations. But to come out of the gate with a 2-day festival after so many years of abscence, what can they expect?

Originally posted by mark e smith:

Originally posted by nkotbie:
What do you consider "alternative music" and how does it differ from "modern rock?" Seems like two names for the same thing.

How about the bands that were going to play Lolla as alternative, maybe indie…

the shite they play on HFS as modern rock, I dont listen very often, but I suspect Creed, Limp, Nickleback and Evanessence along with the worst of all Linkin Park. [/QB]

RonniStar

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Re: no lolla.. June 24, 2004 at 04:37 PM UTC #

Originally posted by nkotbie:

What do you consider "alternative music" and how does it differ from "modern rock?" Seems like two names for the same thing.

When I say alternative, I mean bands that don't get too much airplay on radio and/or music video channels. It can also include bands with cult followings.

Take a look at this year's Ozzfest, bands like Lamb of God, Lacuna Coil, God Forbid, Unearth, Darkest Hour, Bleeding Through, etc. would classified as "Alternative Metal." R&B acts like Jazzy Fatnastees, Res, Les Nubians, Jill Scott, etc. would classed "Alternative R&B." Jurassic Park, Dead Prez, Diluated Peoples, Dizzee Rascal and The Streets would be called "Alternative Hip-Hop." Hope that answers your question.