I don't think you are as dumb as your argument…<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> so if I kill my wife doing research on what its like to be a murderer that ok?<P>HUM…….<P>I am off home</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
pete Townsend = child molester
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>I don't think you are as dumb as your argument…<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>sorry I obviously am. If you do something illegal, it remains illegal whatever your motive.<P>The law is an ass.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:<BR><B>Don't disparage Phil. He was once a <I>most-excellent</I> drummer with Brand-X and had hair<BR>
<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>At least Phils comeback does not seem to have garnered much attention. The guy is a Cretin, why cant god take him instead of the talented people?<P>
<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>At least Phils comeback does not seem to have garnered much attention. The guy is a Cretin, why cant god take him instead of the talented people?<P>I guess I see viewing kiddie porn as a moral depravation issue rather than a legal issue. Though if one is paying for it, in a small way they are aiding in it's existence, even if they are doing "research".<BR> If he were doing legit research, he should have attained permission. But then again, since when do rock starts ask for permission to do anything?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> sorry I obviously am. If you do something illegal, it remains illegal whatever your motive.<P>The law is an ass.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
It is always after they get caught that they say it is for research. <P>Another thing that pisses me off is those reporters that try to smuggle fake bombs into airports to show how bad security is or how easy it is to buy designer drugs. Once it is shown on tv that they did it, should they be arrested? - I certainly would like to see that happen!
Whether it was actually for research or not is for the courts to resolve.<P>Should he just announce to the world beforehand that he is doing kiddie porn research? Must one announce all of your intentions publicly before proceeding?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by G.Love:<BR><B>It is always after they get caught that they say it is for research. <P>Another thing that pisses me off is those reporters that try to smuggle fake bombs into airports to show how bad security is or how easy it is to buy designer drugs. Once it is shown on tv that they did it, should they be arrested? - I certainly would like to see that happen!</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> so if I kill my wife doing research on what its like to be a murderer that ok?<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>your argument is not a proper parallel…if you looked at pictures of someone being killed that would not make you a killer…<P>
though I believe snuff films are illegal, as child pornography is…
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>Whether it was actually for research or not is for the courts to resolve.<P>Should he just announce to the world beforehand that he is doing kiddie porn research? Must one announce all of your intentions publicly before proceeding? </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Thats why it is such a good excuse! <BR>Maybe he could have been temporarily deputized by London Yards prior to his research!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B> I guess I see viewing kiddie porn as a moral depravation issue rather than a legal issue. Though if one is paying for it, in a small way they are aiding in it's existence, even if they are doing "research".<BR> If he were doing legit research, he should have attained permission. But then again, since when do rock starts ask for permission to do anything?<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I agree with the "moral depravation" vs. legality issue, in terms of posessing the porn, vs. producing the porn—can't people see the difference between uploading and downloading?—however, the research argument is flimsy…he could have interviewed abused kids or read psychology books on the subject…I would only buy the "research" as more of an emotional exploration for him, like seeing if looking at these images triggered any feelings or memories for him…what may be very sad and very likely is that he is a victim of the abuse he had to endure and that has damaged him, making him drawn to child pornography…it is true that the abused often go on to abuse, or fantasize about abuse…doesn't make it right, of course, but, we can have a little compassion<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The Bombay Doors:<BR><B> <BR>Up with people?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>you have lost me there……<P>is that a REM reference or a Lambchop reference?<P>all I know is lennon is dead, McCartney is still alive. Ketih Moon is Dead Daltrey is still alive……Hendrix is dead, Phil collins is still alive.<P>Why cant the crap be taken young?
Andy Gibb died at 30, his much more talented brothers live longer…<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> you have lost me there……<P><BR>Why cant the crap be taken young?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark:<BR><B>Andy Gibb died at 30, his much more talented brothers live longer…<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I thought Andy thought he was too cool to hang about with his big-toothed brothers?<P>didnt he drink himself to death as well?
he was fond of his drugs,his brothers admitted that andy had a big drug problem they also said that the best moment of there career was when andy joined them on stage, the bee gees are going to carry on without maurice, so markie will still have a chance to buy his first bee gee record.
I am sure I have saturday night fever back in the UK. I think it came in a job lot of records….. I dont think I have anything else though. Perhaps I have missed out?<P>Then again I dont like Neil Diamond either……
Its ironic that the guy who writes "hope I die before I get old," gets old and has this kind of fall from grace. I really do feel bad for the guy, whatever his motivation. Once upon a time he focused his creative energy in a way that exorcised his demons (assumably) and made him a hero. It seems his energies (whatever's left) are now sadly misguided. I don't understand the thought process of abhoring the subject matter, but paying money to support it. I imagine he could have completed his "research" using free content. Its sad to see someone win on so many levels, but ultimately look like a loser. Is he a child molester? I don't think so. Is he a sorry old loser? Well, it kind of looks that way.
Well now we know what he meant when he wrote "The Kids are Alright".
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> you have lost me there……<P>is that a REM reference or a Lambchop reference?<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Trust me Markie, you DON'T want to know anything about Up With People!
<P>They make Phil Collins, Neil Diamond, and all that other kind of schlock sound good. Very good! <P>
<P>They make Phil Collins, Neil Diamond, and all that other kind of schlock sound good. Very good! <P><BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jaguär:<BR><B> Trust me Markie,<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>even allmusic didnt have anything to say. Just that their highest chart position was 61……<P>I have no idea whatsoever who they are.<P>But with your advice I think I shall still sleep soundly at night.
Maybe a Simpsons reference will help…they made fun of them once…<BR> <A HREF="http://www.shift.com/content/10.3/397/1.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.shift.com/content/10.3/397/1.html</A>